Madcowz Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I know, should have checked first but there we are. Went to fit the new jate rings to the rear and found that the tow bar bracing strut is in the way. any ideas on what to do here please? Can't fit them to the front because of the steering guard. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 My 90 has another tubed hole about 6" further rearwards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_mack Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 My 90 has another tubed hole about 6" further rearwards... ive heard that you should use jate rings on the REAR of a defender for recovery as the chassis isnt strengthened like it is on disco/rrc. use the tow bar instead. apparantly it is fine to use jate rings on the FRONT for recovery as it is strengthened there. duno if theres any truth in that though, i think i read it on one of the other forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Did this to my 110's adjustable hitch bracing arms. had to shave a bit off & swap them from their original locations.so they would clear the fuel tank as fitting the rear jate rings pushed the arms in a bit, I've had some really heavy loads on the tow hitch since doing this about 12 years ago.never had any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Rogers Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I fitted mine ok by fitting them with the towing eye and towbar brace inside the jate ring, its a snug fit but means both the jate ring and the tow bar bracket are secure well i hope so anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 the transporter tiedown can be used to act as a 10mm thick spacer on the rear, on my 110 the tow hitch bracing arm does that job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotian Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 sorry to hijack this thread. But is it ok to use just normal bolts from B&Q to fit a jate ring or are the ones you order from Paddock and the like stronger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgnas Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 sorry to hijack this thread. But is it ok to use just normal bolts from B&Q to fit a jate ring or are the ones you order from Paddock and the like stronger? I looked at the bolts in B&Q and they were not stamped/forged with strength markings Assume them to be made from chocolate grade steel. I was going to take issue with them but considered it above the level of standard £$%^wit employed there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Drill another hole, fit a crush tube, and fit the Jate ring. I wouldn't use a B&Q bolt, I have a feeling that the original is high tensile (M8) Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Drill another hole, fit a crush tube, and fit the Jate ring. I wouldn't use a B&Q bolt, I have a feeling that the original is high tensile (M8)Les. Please, Les, How would you fit the crush tube, I've got three to do for another job on my chassis. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madcowz Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 I fitted mine ok by fitting them with the towing eye and towbar brace inside the jate ring, its a snug fit but means both the jate ring and the tow bar bracket are securewell i hope so anyway! I was worried about doing this in case the the force of recovery pulled the jate ring back and snapped/bent the tow strut. /mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I drill a hole the same Outer diameter of the crush tube, then weld it in place/grind flat, Mike. From the 'reinforcing a rear crossmember' thread - Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Thanks Les. That was the way I had in mind. Always good to ask somebody else though. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_mack Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Thanks Les. That was the way I had in mind. Always good to ask somebody else though. mike whats a crush tube? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 whats a crush tube? it means the bolt going through can be tightened without the relatively thing sheetmetal on the outsides being pulled in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 If you were to drill a hole through the chassis and then put a bolt through - it would tighten-up and distort/squash the sides of the chassis. If you tried to tighten the bolt enough not to do this, then there's a chance that the bolt may not be tight enough, or that the bolt will tear the chassis walls when it's put under any kind of strain. A crush tube prevents distortion and allows the bolt to be tightened correctly. It also effectively doubles the area strenghth where the bolt is fitted. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacks906 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 been looking to find that thread regarding crush tubes has any one instaled them to the rear of a 300 galv chassis from marslands with the TD5 rear cross member the inside metal seems very thin, on the outside there are threaded holes there which i dont want to use for the nato hitch so want to install crush tubes is it possible or is there threaded plate at the back strong enough?? i do have another plan but that is a big plan dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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