The Badger Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Got and 07 sloth 90, waslooking at the QT servies term switch for two fans? or, shall I not bother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Firstly - if you don't know if you need one, what makes you think you might need/want one? All the time the viscous is working OK there are not many reasons to swap it out. Being able to turn it off for wading is a good reason, as is faster warmup (esp. in winter) and the ability to stick the fan on to pre-empt the engine getting hot, for example when towing. If the viscous stops working, that's another good reason Don't buy a Kenlowe, they're vastly overpriced and their stats are rubbish. Buy an X-Eng fan switch (forum discount in SimonR's signature ) and use a second hand fan from a car - take a tape measure to the scrapyard, expect to pay between £5 and £25 depending on what the fan comes from. I believe Ryan has a pair of 12" Kenlowes for sale at considerably below list price as an alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I'll put in a vote for the X-Eng fan controller kit as well, got mine last week and it's...wait for it.... FAN tastic!! I'm off to bed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotian Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I really should invest in a controler kit from x-eng but for now I have a Vaxhaul Corsa fan (its a bosch item) with a relay onto a switch on the dash. I just have to keep my eyes on the temp guage and put it on and off myself. to be honest I prefer this simplicity and total control rather than hoping a thermostat never fails on me. This way I only have my self to blame if I forget to turn it on!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I've got a manual switch and the X-eng thermostat housing - best of both worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted April 25, 2008 Author Share Posted April 25, 2008 Firstly - if you don't know if you need one, what makes you think you might need/want one? All the time the viscous is working OK there are not many reasons to swap it out. Being able to turn it off for wading is a good reason, as is faster warmup (esp. in winter) and the ability to stick the fan on to pre-empt the engine getting hot, for example when towing. If the viscous stops working, that's another good reason Don't buy a Kenlowe, they're vastly overpriced and their stats are rubbish. Buy an X-Eng fan switch (forum discount in SimonR's signature ) and use a second hand fan from a car - take a tape measure to the scrapyard, expect to pay between £5 and £25 depending on what the fan comes from. I believe Ryan has a pair of 12" Kenlowes for sale at considerably below list price as an alternative. This is one of those things that I think would work better, i.e the other day I was in very cold conditions for the week and this popped into my head as the truck did not like it much... Was also looking at a heat exchanger for the diesel as this would help allot. Again it's one of those things that at the end of the day should prolong the life of the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top90 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I'm not sure it's worth it unless you are looking for things to do. Even with a viscous fan running all the time the Puma warms up much faster than any other engined LR I've even had. At 0 degrees it takes about two miles to get heat from the vents. All the time the viscous unit is working it should have hardly any affect on engine life. How cold are you planning on going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
istruggle2gate11 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I've got a manual switch and the X-eng thermostat housing - best of both worlds. I did have the x eng switch, but thats now fitted to a TVR Cerbera (most exoctic fitment yet Si?) But always have the manual overide. Ive just fitted one of these, testing this weekend: Perma Cool 19115 16" High Performance Electric Fan Mounting Area Req'd: 16" x 16" x 3-3/4" Est. CFM: 2950 Motor RPM: 1750 AMP Draw: 9.8 Fuse Size: 30 AMP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted April 25, 2008 Author Share Posted April 25, 2008 I'm not sure it's worth it unless you are looking for things to do.Even with a viscous fan running all the time the Puma warms up much faster than any other engined LR I've even had. At 0 degrees it takes about two miles to get heat from the vents. All the time the viscous unit is working it should have hardly any affect on engine life. How cold are you planning on going? I was in -20º the other day, go job I had the winter kit installed.... The heated windshield works a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I've got one of those switches fitted into the bottom radiator hose and works fine. It replaced my old Kenlowe set-up which was a bit of an outdated design (although it has never broken down). As far as I know the X-eng parts are standard items which means you will probably find similar switches at a scrapyard. But for cooling issues I suggest to buy a new quality part anyway. Replacing a cracked cylinder head is no fun. Cheers Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nas90 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Personally I will only use the viscous fan LR designed for my engine, PERIOD. When off-roading, in my opinion, electric fans are pants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintman Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Short answer is no. I have not noticed any difference in fuel consumption. If you intend to deep wade regularly with a petrol engine then you can turn electric fans off so there is less chance of water being thrown all over the electrics. I do have Kenlowes on my RRC, but wouldn't bother again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top90 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I was in -20º the other day, go job I had the winter kit installed....The heated windshield works a treat. At -20 was there a problem warming the engine up? I just can't see removing the viscous fan making a huge difference. Must be better ways. I have used electric fans for offroading, but have gone back to a viscous fan for that too after problems with electric ones. Yes, the heated seats and screen are nice, not that I've been in such cold climates as you yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted April 25, 2008 Author Share Posted April 25, 2008 It did warm in the end, my arse got warmer quicker though... I think then the answer is not to bother, as it has been fine so far, I do think the heat exchanger for warming the fuel would be a good call though. And maybe something to warm the engine a little quicker (kenlow heater thingy) but that is sooooo expensive and not for me at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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