landybear Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Hi all, Just took a boat out the slipway weighing 2100kg with trailer. I havent done my trailer test yet but took it up the private road for him for someone else to pick him up. Its the first time i have had anything like that on the 90 and boy did it seem to stuggle especially when trying to get momentum for a 1-2nd change. The slipway was ok but the private road with a slight incline was a nightmare. Is this normal?? Many thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landmannnn Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Were you using low ratio? Are you sure it was 2100 kgs? Boats often end up heavier with all the stuff inside. With a heavy trailer the technique of changing from low to high on the move is really useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landybear Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 Up the slipway yes. But not on the road - it was fine in first but the change to second was only possible up the slight incline by slipping the clutch. Low ratio was fine yeah no prob - still not too good with low to high on the fly - find it hard to stop grinding (see thread a while back that i posted). So should i need low for that weight 2100kg?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Were you using low ratio? Are you sure it was 2100 kgs? Boats often end up heavier with all the stuff inside. With a heavy trailer the technique of changing from low to high on the move is really useful. Surely you mean HI RATIO for a low gear. Hi ratio=low box Low ratio=high box. Don't worry. Even Land Rover or most journalists don't know the difference. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landybear Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 Yeah sorry - i meant low range (high ratio) So is that ok its just i thought you could tow more in high range (low ratio) than 2100kg withoutn dropping into low range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithjh Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Hi all,Just took a boat out the slipway weighing 2100kg with trailer. I havent done my trailer test yet but took it up the private road for him for someone else to pick him up. Its the first time i have had anything like that on the 90 and boy did it seem to stuggle especially when trying to get momentum for a 1-2nd change. The slipway was ok but the private road with a slight incline was a nightmare. Is this normal?? Many thanks in advance Hi Me thinks you have a problem have towed a 3500kg twin axle trailer loaded to its max across europe and the alps with a 200tdi 90, and it coped okay regards keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Towing 2100 kg with a Defender should not be a problem. You could use low range for starting on an incline/boat ramp/soft ground, but should be able to switch to high when everything is in motion. I towed 3500 kg and more with my TD5 90, without a problem. It does however takes some getting used to. You need to build up a bit more revs before changing up a gear, especially uphill as you'll lose more speed and want to keep the engine firmly in it's powerband. When I tow my loaded car trailer with the Range Rover DT, I tend to shift gear at 3000 rpm, compared to 2000 rpm for normal, relaxed driving. Off course you'll notice the engine working harder, but that's to be expected when you double the weight. Just keep practicing, you'll get the hang of it soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 still not too good with low to high on the fly - find it hard to stop grinding ah so its not just me then - I had a few practise runs at it yesterday and thought the box was going to drop off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 dont worry - lt230's will take a good kicking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Towing 2100 kg with a Defender should not be a problem. You could use low range for starting on an incline/boat ramp/soft ground, but should be able to switch to high when everything is in motion. I towed 3500 kg and more with my TD5 90, without a problem.It does however takes some getting used to. You need to build up a bit more revs before changing up a gear, especially uphill as you'll lose more speed and want to keep the engine firmly in it's powerband. When I tow my loaded car trailer with the Range Rover DT, I tend to shift gear at 3000 rpm, compared to 2000 rpm for normal, relaxed driving. Off course you'll notice the engine working harder, but that's to be expected when you double the weight. Just keep practicing, you'll get the hang of it soon enough. As escape said at first it can be strange. But also boats weight and accutal weight can be two differant things, after all i bet the 2100 was dry or what the shop said it weigh. and not with all the carp in it or the fact it will have water in the hull after you have dragged it out of the sea BTW Eascape nice dog pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troddenmasses Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 The other thing to consider is how good were the wheel bearings in the trailer? If they hadn't been serviced within the past few hours they could start to jam up under heavy weights - leading to hugely increased rolling resistance. Wheel bearings and salt water REALLY don't mix... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon B Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Are the brakes binding, especially if someone has parked up the boat trailer with it's handbrake on after a dunking in the sea. Have you got much kit in the vehicle as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landybear Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Its not my boat, its a mates but the trailer is ummm under the weather - to put it a nice way. So i am hoping that that was the problem. Landy doesnt have much in it just a few bits and bobs so it would have been interesting to see it on a weigh bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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