white90 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 on the dvd at 35min why is the green car connected to a towing frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosZuki Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 mmm a much muted point, seems the little fellas cant drive the road miles unassisted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 You can also see how happy they are to be filmed rigging the towing frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Would that be considered cheating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Would that be considered cheating? It's not technically cheating - last year they trailered them everywhere, which was then banned as it was considered rather unsporting. This year the rule was you were allowed to be towed back to camp if the car was broken, these guys tend to explore the limits of the regulations somewhat possibly because the Frogs either have no high box, permanently locked diff(s), or are just horrible on the road. I don't know which ones of those may be the case, but they certainly don't like driving them on the road. Guess we'll see what the rules are next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myllis Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 It's not technically cheating - last year they trailered them everywhere, which was then banned as it was considered rather unsporting. This year the rule was you were allowed to be towed back to camp if the car was broken, these guys tend to explore the limits of the regulations somewhat possibly because the Frogs either have no high box, permanently locked diff(s), or are just horrible on the road. I don't know which ones of those may be the case, but they certainly don't like driving them on the road. Guess we'll see what the rules are next year. Rules are the same, you can use a bar for towing. But not a trailer or a dolly. And at least one person should be in the car.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Shurvinton Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 You would have thought for the purported cost of the frogs they could drive a few miles on the road... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Theres assurances of a 1 hour penalty for each "towing" event in 2009 ... game on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Theres assurances of a 1 hour penalty for each "towing" event in 2009 ... game on Towrope and camera on standby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosZuki Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 can other teams tow other cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 can other teams tow other cars Frog Vs Mouse, I think Mouse would tow it quite happily whether they wanted to be towed or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Theres assurances of a 1 hour penalty for each "towing" event in 2009 ... game on Jez, does that mean anyone you help out of a stage in future will incur a 1 hour penalty as well then ?? Maybe you just gonna have to leave them all there to rot matey.... Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Yuri seemed pretty clear cut about it James - transit towing is towing, doesnt matter who where or how, I think he understands why the "drivers mafia" is pee'd about it all, Mait Mumme didnt seem to like the situation either and he's one on the international advisors/referees - its going to hurt sooooooo badly if they get a 1 hour ping every day IMO the only permissible tow is if one team hauled another "dead team" out of stage - I wouldnt want to see that penalised as its the only real life line we all have, but as soon as you reach transit let the penalties begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 theres few people I would leave in the nowhere Neil - seriously its not a nice place to be, we earned the dubious title of "Tow Tractor" from the Estonians for dragging out thier dead cars, these days we would finish special stage first and then stomp back in if needed (unless its the gappy toothed Qkulgar horror in which case we can drive just as fast with his junk on a rope as without it ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 we earned the dubious title of "Tow Tractor" from the Estonians I preferred Erik's version, he's a man of impeccable taste that chap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 Good news on penalties for towing needlessly what is the point otherwise they may as well have hovercraft. the tree of god didn't save everyone I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 gotta have 4 wheels - its in the event rulebook (seriously), basically any wheeze you can think of to get you over the pooh is banned, double wheels, tracks, etc etc, Frogs are just exploiting a loophole that was intended to keep people racing instead of knocking them out, IMO not in the "spirit of the event" but sadly there are those that value a plastic cup over all else... The tree didnt save 3 or 4 this year Tony, it looks like an obvious mistake from where the camera is but from a drivers point of view you can't see it coming.. 3 years ago I had Urvo and the red niva tapping the bumper when we went through there, Petal had a view malfunction (and I chewed a hole in the seat cover) thankfully saved by nailing the gas and using the tree, its a fair way down to that lake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 They are braver than I as I'd have the winch connected to navigate that tree A good pointer If there are loads of camera people about at what appears not to significant a place, time to get out and have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I was wondering why they were towing the little green frog! 'tow tractor' brilliant! OT: Where is petal nowadays? Russia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Mouse is sat in the lab covered in pooh, might have to get the hose pipe out at some stage no more racing until the bank balance doesnt consist of a number with a lot of zero's and a minus sign roll on next year, no car building Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Turner Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Mouse is sat in the lab covered in pooh, might have to get the hose pipe out at some stage no more racing until the bank balance doesnt consist of a number with a lot of zero's and a minus sign roll on next year, no car building I bet that feels good.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosZuki Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 well now you mention it i was thinking about the chase car for next year and weeeeeel Mikko and i were thinking..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I bet that feels good.......... Yeah - remember last year when we just tweaked Petal little bit, that was soooo relaxing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I asked where is petal now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Jez, Feel free to print off and pin up somewhere in the lab to haunt you in 2009 Its even Pre-Framed Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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