Maverik Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 84reg 90 with transplanted Disco 200Tdi Ok the lesson I have learnt today is:- take the negative off the battery before playing with spanners under the bonnet. I've just managed to short out the main +ve feed on the starter motor to a near by copper brake line, now I've got no power in the vehicle at all... Fusebox is a bit of a mess, due to previous owner "intervaention" any pointers at to which fuses in what part of the circuit to look for? I've got the HAYNES book open looking at the wiring diagram for engine models up to 1986, i'm guessing its using the old loom and wireing. Worying thing is I've found a few too many 13 and 15 amp household fuses than I would like to expect. I'm feeling the start of a steep learning curve coming on... cheers mav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Does the 200 have the fuse box under the bonnet with the Mega fuses in? the 300TDI has a fuse box on the bulkhead near the exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 The only fusebox I'm aware of is the one in the cab infront of the gear stick on the bulkhead below the dash. Whats a Mega fuses? forgive my ignorance. I did woner if I've got some more soewhere else. I'll go have another look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 There maybe a couple of big - megafuses - under a black plastic clip down cover mounted on the footwell/bulkhead just at the bottom of the heater box, do you have any power in the battery? cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 No mega fuses on a 1984 90, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 yeah I know ......but its a landrover so who knows what has been modded/ changed? S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errol209 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 yeah I know ......but its a landrover so who knows what has been modded/ changed? I've been there too 1. Keep Calm. 2. Carry on - and get yer multimeter (or sidelight bulb and holder on longish wires) out and verify that it reads / indicates when you put it across a known good battery. 3. Start at the battery and test accross it. (My guess is you'll have juice here). 4. Test the end of the big red wire at the starter solenoid, with the other test lead on a clean bit of engine. You probably have no juice. If this is true, you've possibly burnt the transmission / engine to chassis earth strap or the battery lead out. 5. The battery negative should still be connected to the gearbox (accessible / visible from underneath) You can test this item with a resistance setting, from battery negative to the top of the transfer box, under the middle seat. 6. IMHO, bodgers rarely add safety features (like pricey 300A fuses) to wiring, but if you trace the big red wire betwixt battery and solenoid (it normally runs in a bit of ribbed plastic ducting) you might prove me wrong... 7. You can get to both ends of every wire, so go round and tick of every connection in the starter circuit as you test them with the meter. Calm and methodical, and consider irate violence only when all else fails Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted December 18, 2009 Author Share Posted December 18, 2009 Hey up chaps, Right after many hours, managed to get it going late last night. It appears that ignition circuit has now 2 fuse's in series, one was tucked away behind the dash panel, the other was in the fuse box on the bulkhead... ok now got a new problem. The battery is fine, but I put the ignition on, turn the key to kick the starter motor over and I just get a click. Headlights dim when I do this so the circuit is drawing current. Sometimes if you wait a bit, then try again, it then starts up no problem. - turn it off, try it again, you just get a click. The Haynes says its most likely a problem with the starter motor itself... any idea's? Mav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Quite likely the starter, or the battery itself. A dead battery's voltage will collapse with only a small current draw. The length of time a dead battery will hold a charge is also much reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errol209 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 ^^^ wot Luke said too - try a known good battery (its the easiest thing to swap). It appears that ignition circuit has now 2 fuse's in series, one was tucked away behind the dash panel, the other was in the fuse box on the bulkhead... That's two more than normal - be afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobyone Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 you get a relay tick, or the solenoid ticks? if the starter and spanners were the cause of the short. then perhaps you got some localised heating and either damaged the windings or solenoid coil, or the insulation may have distorted and is sticking a bit. worth taking the solenoid off and cleaning it out/testing it off the vehicle. you can do the same with the starter and jump leads. before that though, check the signal wire to the solenoid is making a good connection as this may cause the problem. as will the earth lead being loose on the starter too. ******infact, just a thought, but when you got the sparks, did you forget to tighten up the positive connection tightly on the starter post!!!****** richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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