BobtailBogey Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Im looking into building a internal cage around the front seats in 'bogey' but just wondering how/what is the best way to bend it using a proper pipe bender? Just had a play with a waste piece and anything over approx 45 Deg the tube seems to collapse!!!! Any ideas on how to stop this happening? Or just general tips anything much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl hurst Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 On what type of bender and what kind of pipe/tube are you using, cds wont bend in a push bender this needs a draw type bender and you need corus grade blue band for sucsessfull bends on a push bender, Carl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobtailBogey Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 Im using a push bender same as this: http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/chv12-12-ton-hydraulic-pipe-bender Not 100% sure on the type of tube using as i bought it from a mate who had loads left over from building himself a cage. Its 48mm in diametre if that helps at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLR100 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Im using a push bender same as this: http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/chv12-12-ton-hydraulic-pipe-bender Not 100% sure on the type of tube using as i bought it from a mate who had loads left over from building himself a cage. Its 48mm in diametre if that helps at all. From my experience of using a machinemart push bender, the formers are cr*p and spread open after a few to many bends, this was never noticable to the eye but when i took them back and exchanged them for new ones the problem was cured, for a short while until they spread again. if you have a second hand unit i shall think your friend has had the best out of the formers as when they are new you should have no problem bending 90 degree on 48mm x 3mm wall. i have since purchased a pull bender and it is in my opinion the better type of bender, all the best with it, chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobtailBogey Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 Thanks chris. What is the difference from a push bender to a Pull?? How does it make a better bend? I need to find out the type of tubing i have really to see if its worth using it or getting some different stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Decent bends start with the tooling , the tube must be a tight fit in the former otherwise the bend will crush . Thats why the better class of manual hydraulic benders power out and in to draw the tool off the bent tube hth Cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Save yourself a whole world of pain and ruined tube by buying the main hoops from P&P or NOR. Particularly with an internal cage in a Rangie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Agree with Bish, having now experienced how complicated and time consuming building a cage actually is I started with the front and central hoop, then after much cussing bought the roof rails to suit, and bought a couple of lengths of straight stuff locally for making up the bracing/stays. All my stuff was from P&P and I cannot tell you how well it all fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobtailBogey Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 Excellent thanks i have just emailed P&P so lets see what they say and how much they will want for just the 2 side hoops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I have a machine mart push bender and it works plenty well enough on up to 90degree bends - I've never took it further. I use a smear of grease over the former to aid it, and the important thing to remember is that it is designed to be used on standard BSP pipe, it will not work with any random pipe, as my idiot brother found out when he tried to use some 'free' scaffolding pipe in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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