Frax Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Hi do any of you know if you can get such a thing as a 10 spline heavy duty drive flange, been on the hunt but all I can find are 24's Regards Frax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 This any good? http://www.the4x4accessorystore.co.uk/Land-Rover-heavy-duty-drive-flange-10-spline-/Exterior-Protection/Off-Road-and-Performance-Equipment/1063.aspx EDIT: Never used that shop before so have no idea what they are like, just found it through a google search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frax Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Will have to have a look when I get home, Offshore and that site is blocked for some reason. Thanks for that though - home Tuesday so have a look then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 You could try http://gigglepin4x4store.gostorego.com/heavy-duty-drive-member-for-defender-only.html It's Bearmach part number BR0465A I guess it's worth looking for heavy duty drive members for a defender up to the date when 24 spline axles came in. 1993? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I think Ashcrofts do HD versions for both the later axles (24 spline diff, thin flange) and early (10-spline diff, thick flange). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I think Ashcrofts do HD versions for both the later axles (24 spline diff, thin flange) and early (10-spline diff, thick flange). Correct-- in standard form http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=354 or nice shiney form http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frax Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 I take it that I am right in saying that an 1987 petrol 90 would have a 10 spline. I am only checking as I am not at home just now. I just wondered as I was hunting and found some old 10 spline shafts but they had nuts on the end instead of the circlip, the one I have has a circlip. CrazyWabbit are you also working nights ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I'm sure the wide drive flanges are 24 spline? my AEU2522 early CVs are certainly 24 on the flange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I take it that I am right in saying that an 1987 petrol 90 would have a 10 spline. I am only checking as I am not at home just now.I just wondered as I was hunting and found some old 10 spline shafts but they had nuts on the end instead of the circlip, the one I have has a circlip. CrazyWabbit are you also working nights ? Should be at that age yes, but that assumes everything is original! Series III (at least, perhaps earlier ones too) 10 spline shafts had a castellated nut on the end, but 90/110 models use circlips. Ross: All 90/110 drive flanges are 24-spline technically, but when people say 10 or 24 in this context they are referring to the diff-to-shaft joint. The half shaft/CV-to-flange joints are all 24 spline. And the shaft/cv joints at the front were 23 or 32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 my '89 110 is 10 spline at the diff & inner end of driveshafts. so I would expect a '87 vehicle to be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frax Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Thanks Western - Is it 10 or 24 at the drive flange ? I am now confused - easy I know Retroanoconda, Are you saying all drive flanges on 90's are 24 spline then as it is the drive flange I am going to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 defo not 10 at the outer drive flange end, I'd guess 24 without removing one & counting the splines, all are bog factory standard flanges on my 110. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frax Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Good to know - I will go and order a set of 4. Its a long story but when I rebuilt my Defender 300tdi I fitted the front axle from a 90 as I had just fitted a full set of bearings and seals to it. Still have the 300tdi axle which I could overhall and fit at some point. Thank you for all the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 The joint between the half shaft (or CV joint on the front) and the drive shaft itself is 24 spline on all 90/110 models. The confusion arises because the general shift from earlier axles to later ones is usually defined as "10 spline" and "24 spline" axles, this was one of the many changes made at that time and refers to the diff/shaft joint as above. The thickness of the drive flanges was another point that changed at the same time, as well as hub thickness, stub axles, swivels, etc. etc. Earlier axles have 10-spline diffs and thick drive flanges. Later axles have 24-spline diffs and thin flanges. Both have 24 splines at the flange joint, though it is probably better not to reference them by this to avoid such confusion. Early/late or thick/thin as above is most often used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frax Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Thank you for that, it is a bit clearer now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 ..... CrazyWabbit are you also working nights ? Lol, was a late night doing course work and then up early to do the day job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Should be at that age yes, but that assumes everything is original! Series III (at least, perhaps earlier ones too) 10 spline shafts had a castellated nut on the end, but 90/110 models use circlips.Ross: All 90/110 drive flanges are 24-spline technically, but when people say 10 or 24 in this context they are referring to the diff-to-shaft joint. The half shaft/CV-to-flange joints are all 24 spline. And the shaft/cv joints at the front were 23 or 32. I know all that James , hence my post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocklandjohn Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Aaaargh - I'm really confused now. I was looking to replace my tatty old worn drive flanges with the HD ones with nut on so I can fill with slippery stuff and keep the shaft end well lubed. What do I need for a 1989 110? It's Salisbury rear axle, drums and whatever the front would be for that vintage. All is as-was from new as it's not been changed. Retroanaconda said: "Earlier axles have 10-spline diffs and thick drive flanges. Later axles have 24-spline diffs and thin flanges." I've read several descriptions on various vendors sites but it's only made me more confused, but I gather its thick type to '94 and thin type after that? So I take it I need thick flanges as opposed to the thin type? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 All 110 drive flanges are 24 spline. On your 1989 model, the rear axles will be 24 spline at both ends. The front axle will be 10 spline at the diff, 23 spline at the CV joint and 24 spline at the flange. The flanges will all be the thick type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocklandjohn Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 All 110 drive flanges are 24 spline. On your 1989 model, the rear axles will be 24 spline at both ends. The front axle will be 10 spline at the diff, 23 spline at the CV joint and 24 spline at the flange. The flanges will all be the thick type. Thanks Red - that's cleared that up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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