o_teunico Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Hi all, With the 88 "nearly" completed, I´m now thinking about the first mods to do. Diff lockers where not in the list because, even the cheaper ones, exceed my budget...but then I remembered that the Lincoln Locker is there! As you will know, this locking "mechanism" takes it´s name from the welding equipment company Lincoln, and is the number one option among redneck rock crawlers. It´s just a matter of welding the sun gears to the carrier. Simple, robust and effective...but locked 100% of the time. I will be doing about 400 to 500km on tarmac per week, so here is the idea: fit a freewheeling hub to the rear short shaft and use it on tarmac as a one wheel drive. Very light off road will be three wheel drive and, locking the hub, I will have 4x4 with "locked" rear axle. Taking apart the fact that welding your diff may not be 100% legal, is this option something feasable? Typical Lincoln Locker systems are used on tarmac apparently without problems in the US, but they have beef shafts and I have 10 splines... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic-al Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I did it on my SJ. Made an amazing difference offroad. On a paved surface you could feel it go tight then skip a wheel, it sort of waddled with the soft springs and I think it would be dangerous in the wet. I think 1 when drive would pose a similar problem, the car would always be trying to spin and wouldn't track very straight. Also if your engine has a lot of torque if you change down it might 'lock' the one wheel in the wet. I've had the rwd pickup do this before with two driven wheels :/ I guess it depends how much you use it, where you go and how willing you are to compensate with your driving. Not sure it would go down well if you ever were involved in a bad accident. What about two free wheeling hubs at the back and run it as a front wheel drive on the road? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Not a lot of torque...standard 2.25 diesel Thought about FWD, but UJ are not really designed for that. Change down and lock a wheel...didn´t realize that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 It's all sorts of wrong to do I am afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I stripped a drive flange on a diesel Series 3 many years ago and drove 200 miles home in "three-wheel-drive". It was quite horrible, with the car pulling and lurching all over the place. Plus it started making shocking noises from the front and I couldn't fix it because the half-shaft got stuck in the diff head. So, nah, not a good idea for a road car. However, it's a brilliant concept for the budget off-roader that only goes a little way on road but is mostly used off-road. Room for thought there. I also had a Series 3 with two free-wheeling hubs on the back (for towing on an A-frame). That didn't seem to misbehave when I had a little play in front-wheel drive. The idea could be plausible if you put something like a Stage One V8 front axle on, with those beefy CV joints? I drove a friend's Jeep Wrangle out of the bush once after it had blown a diff. We stripped enough out of the back end that it was effectively just trailing. That was heaps of fun! Though an irrelevant side-track... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I've been exactly there! Started out fitting a single fwh at the back which by no means were safe! When you accelerated it pulled hard to one side, when you decelerated it pulled equally hard to the other side. So it doesn't work.but then I fit both fwhs in the back and just drove it with front wheel drive, this worked very well and as long as your ujoints are in good service don't post any concerns. Drove it like this for quite some time and you could argue its quite a bit safer in the winter time, not spinning out nearly as easily. I say go for it! Diff centers are cheap so should you regret it would be easy and cheap enough to revert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 Thanks for the info! AEU2522 CV (pattern) are cheap, unfortunstelly stage one shafts are pricey as gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Never mind those CV's o-teunico, thems things for pussies! Weld up that rear diff and fit those fwh's and go have fun! Preferably on a Sal's for piece of mind, or just bring tools and halfshafts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 No Salisburies in Spain...Santana used 10 spline Rover axle even in 109 tow/recovery trucks and forward controls. Later six cylinders used the ENV type. I have one of those, but with no shafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jai_landrover Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I have a lock right diff lock that I will part with and happily ship to Spain given the right offer. Currently in my 90 4.7:1 series ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 Thanks for the offer! I´m going to maintain the vehicle bone stock until next MoT, but will consider it in the next months if you still have it. Is it a 10 spline unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Thanks for the info! AEU2522 CV (pattern) are cheap, unfortunstelly stage one shafts are pricey as gold. KAM has 23/24 spline RRC half shafts with extra long splines at the diff end that can be cut down to Stage 1 size if you ask nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 That "cut to fit" feature is what I was looking for! Will search for them as an option for the future. It will be certainly cheaper than obtaining engineers approval for a Series V/coiler front axle swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 KAM is making Stage One shafts for 23 spline diff. KAM #211 and #212. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jai_landrover Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Yes 10 spline lock right should be good in he back of an 88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jai_landrover Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 can you put a link up for Kams stage 1 shafts??I cannot see them on their website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 I suspect that they are NLA or only on special order, because they don´t appear at the shop. See page 5 of the PDF application guide (bottom left on KAM web) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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