Diablo Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I went off roading (P&P) last weekend, for the first time with my new chassis (approx 3 years old now) and the rear springs were dislocating almost constantly. It put a bit of a dampener on the day, having to get the high-lift out every 20 mins or so. I have been to the same site with the old chassis a number of times and I have also been accross Salisbury plain with the new chassis and never once had a spring dislocate. I can only assume it's a slightly different chassis design, or the fact that's it's now very much a second car that has caused this. Either way I need to do something about this, before a tyre gets punctured or similar. A chap at the site said use a couple of good quality jubilee clips each side - although this seems a bit heath robinson to me. The thing that did jump to mind was relocation cones, but I had always previously thought that this was only really needed for serious suspension travel. Mine is fairly standard overall, no lifts or anything like that. What are people's thoughts? Pop over to Gwyn's website and just get some cones fitted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 What springs do you have fitted? Sounds either like they have settled a lot, or are very firm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diablo Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 I believe they're the HD 90 ones RKB101230 Fitted in part due to their progressive nature. It has probably only been out of the garage and driven about 10 times this year, so I did wonder about settling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 What make were they? 'Quality aftermarket supplier' as it says on Paddocks doesn't really gel with me, I just know I would get it in a blue box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Also, comparing spring rates, here: http://www.red90.ca/rovers/springinfo.html , they aren't alarmingly different, and should be same height when fitted, soooo..... you could remove them and check the uncompressed height against the table, if they are shorter then there is your problem. Replace with genuine or OME springs and never worry again. Failing that, Jubilee clips, whilst heath robinson, do work. I retained my springs at the top, and built bottom cones on the original spring plates, if you want a bolt on solution, then Gwyn's stuff is very good, but if you can build it from scrap it becomes very cheap indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diablo Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 All genuine parts, I don't do blue boxes... I'd forgotten that link, cheers. Probably wouldn't need to remove them - just jack the body up enough. Well worth a look at Is there any advantage to cones at the bottom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Mine are restrained top and bottom. I don't think 2 big clips is very Heath Robinsion. Cheap does the job not elaborate or overly complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Cones at the bottom were cheaper, main benefit Also, on an RRC the top fitted cones/hooks are a little tricky to fit, as the body gets in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Jubilee clips work ok but the cone is a more elegant solution. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 So either the springs got shorter, the shocks got longer, or the bottom retainer has gone and you've been clunking it about ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 IMHO bottom cones are better as the first point of relocation moves in a smaller arc, if you use the top type and have quite a lot of travel then once the spring is underneath the relocator unless your driving very slowly the spring seems to wobble about a lot and can miss the relocater. If they are only just dislocating and your not looking for bags of travel then you could buy/make six of the heavy duty Spring retaining plates (150x25x8 flat) and use these to clamp the spring into the top seat and use one in place of the bottom one otherwise it will just peel the standard one up. I hope that makes some sense... Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 On the shocks front, what do you have fitted? Are they still attached both ends..... pins are known to snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 On the shocks front, what do you have fitted? Are they still attached both ends..... pins are known to snap. That's where I was going with my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I put the disc washers on the wrong way round on the top mount and snapped the top of both shocks off........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktdi Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 When the chassie was changed did you fit new shocks . if so what type if they are plus 2" this could also be your problam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diablo Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 Bit of a delay in replying.... Rear dampers are OME. Std height, I've never seen the point in lifts myself. All still intact. Interesting idea there muddy. I'm not after bags of travel - fairly standard setup, just want to enjoy a day out without using the hi-lift every 15 mins! Just got some decent jubilee clips, so I'll fit those and see how it goes on the next trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diablo Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 So for completeness: Having fitted 2 heavy duty jubilee clips (superclamp or something?) to the top of each spring, I spent a good 3-4 hours offroading yesterday without anything popping out where it shouldn't do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Good, cheap fix then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diablo Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 Yep. Heard a few twangs during the day which I thought was them letting go, but held up absolutely fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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