Snagger Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 The spacer for the lift pump is only used if the operating lever (internal, that impinges on the cam shaft) is too long - these lift pumps can be used on a variety of engines, and there are many versions of pump too. Compare the length of arm on the old and new pumps to determine if it's needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted June 25, 2016 Author Share Posted June 25, 2016 The spacer for the lift pump is only used if the operating lever (internal, that impinges on the cam shaft) is too long - these lift pumps can be used on a variety of engines, and there are many versions of pump too. Compare the length of arm on the old and new pumps to determine if it's needed. The engine with the original pump fitted didn't have the spacer fitted but had loads of silicon round the mating faces and because of the problem i thought maybe it should have a spacer which is what other's have said but both pumps run with or without the spacer fitted and both levers on each pump looks the same so atm the old lift pump is fitted without the spacer but has this problem where the governor comes in before the linkage on the FIP hits the stop on the pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 You need to test the lift pump separately... Disconnect the wire from the fuel solenoid. Remove the fuel line into the injection pump and put into bucket. Crank engine. You should get a good flow of clean fuel. If you do, that is not your problem. If you don't, there is a supply issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 You need to test the lift pump separately... Disconnect the wire from the fuel solenoid. Remove the fuel line into the injection pump and put into bucket. Crank engine. You should get a good flow of clean fuel. If you do, that is not your problem. If you don't, there is a supply issue. Yeah its getting fuel i just wasn't sure it it should need a spacer or not and with the engine i bought originally not fitted with the space and then i read up some had them some didn't i just thought i would try it thinking it was the spacer needed but its looking like its the FIP now so when i can afford it i will have to get it sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted July 2, 2016 Author Share Posted July 2, 2016 Refitted the floor panels back in today so when the new 2A chassis comes I can move the 90 out of the garage to make way for the new chassis and send the 90 in to have the pump and injectors looked at when I can afford it but shouldn't be too long though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 Had another go at the FIP today as i need to do something to get it to the diesel spacialist when its booked in so i set the throttle linkage to where i was happy to drive it, anyway i had a little run round in it and the engine pulls well, is quieter than the Def engine, dosn't smoke as much as the other engine and that didn't smoke much anyway, but it will only go to about 40mph but even with this problem its got i am quite happy as the problem should get sorted when its done, oh and the steering feels better aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Diesels run smoother when injection is retarded. I suspect that's why it's only doing 40 mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 Diesels run smoother when injection is retarded. I suspect that's why it's only doing 40 mph. Yeah i get that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Have you checked the timing etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 Have you checked the timing etc? New belt just fitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 You need to check timing at the pump with a dial indicator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 You need to check timing at the pump with a dial indicator. Ok i just did as the Haynes book said when i did the timing belt inc slackening off the sprocket to pump bolts and getting the timing locking pin to slide in and out easyish and tightening them up again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Yes, but since your truck is running very poorly, you need to dig in and investigate the cause. Checking the timing at the pump makes sure that the pump flange was installed and is correct for the pin set method. Otherwise, you might as well pull the pump off and get it rebuilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephencdavies Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 i recently done the same job, i also had the same querie. i have the same engine. no ............ spacer. works a treat. a new pump will make the fuel spurt out of the filter vent like a bugger, so put your hat on. ( Devon rattler ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 Yes, but since your truck is running very poorly, you need to dig in and investigate the cause. Checking the timing at the pump makes sure that the pump flange was installed and is correct for the pin set method. Otherwise, you might as well pull the pump off and get it rebuilt. That's the plan booking the 90 in to have the pump and injectors overhauled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Not sorted it yet but had to do a tip run today with the 90 with trailer and it didn't do to bad considering then when I came back and un-hitched the trailer I decided to go for a 20 mile drive with no prob's and found where I could the landy would gradually speed up to 60ish so it does sound like its slightly Retarded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share Posted August 10, 2016 Hopefully when i get paid later this month i can book the 90 in to have the pump and injectors done, just in time for the Peterborough show in September Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 22, 2016 Author Share Posted August 22, 2016 90 is now booked it on wednesday to have its pump and injectors done, can't wait till its done now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 Just dropped the 90 off to have its FIP and injectors done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I can see you being a happy bunny on its return ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share Posted August 25, 2016 I can see you being a happy bunny on its return Mo Yeah hope so then I can try it out going to the Peterborough show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just had a call from the diesel specialist saying it's ready but I can't pic it up till Tuesday as I am in work at 14:00 hrs and he is away this weekend, anyway he said everything was gummed up inside so a recond pump and injectors plus filter and it's a flyer now can't wait now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 29, 2016 Author Share Posted August 29, 2016 Collecting it tomorrow can't wait now, think i mite throw a sickie and go for a joy ride instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Enjoy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 Collected the 90 yesterday drove it back up the motorway for the first time with this engine in and it ran great just getting used to it again now as he has set it for top end power not sure how it was set before with the problem it had but up to now it seems ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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