PaulMc

June 10, 2011

right front chassis vertical face between steering box attachment & bumper, might need a good wire brushing to make it readable, numbers/letters should be about 10mm high...

Here -

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June 10, 2011

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Not much of chassis

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June 8, 2011

I recently found this -

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/statistics/datatablespublications/vehicles/licensing/all-stock/veh0120.xls

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June 5, 2011

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There are no relays in the Defender's Electric Window circuit, the switches do the switching directly.

Make sure you have the later switches, part number YUF101521LNF

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May 29, 2011

And we have illumination. my problem was i didnt have visibility of red/yellow wire. is it ok to run a splice from the ecu red/yellow wire?

Yes, that's where it should be fed from.

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May 28, 2011

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The non-latching Rear Fog Lamp Switch (YUG000530LNF) earths the 'One Touch' Rear Fog Lamp ECU (YWC104430L) momentarily, the ECU then switches and holds it's ignition-switched live (which it gets via the Main Lighting Switch/Headlamp Relay) to the Red/Yellow wires to power the Rear Fog Lamps, the Instrument Pack Warning Light and the Rear Fog Lamp Switch 'tell-tale' Orange LED, until either, the Rear Fog Lamp Switch is pushed again, or the ignition-switched live is interrupted (headlights or engine turned-off)

The Pin-outs on YUG000530LNF are -

Pin 1 - From Pin 4 of the "One-Touch" ECU (Black/Slate wire)
Pin 2 - To Dash Illumination Header (Red/Orange wire)
Pin 3 - Not Used
Pin 4 - To Dash Earth Header (Black wire)
Pin 5 - Live FROM Pin 3 of 'One-Touch' ECU (Red/Yellow wire) - for 'tell-tale' orange LED

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May 28, 2011

it would be easier and probably just as cheap to fit a remote unit , google Red dot corporation , click on products, and then look in pdf aftermarket catalogue , probably back wall units . These are the manufacturer that US Mil use in Humvee, APC,s etc . I have a rooftop unit on my 110 and that handled 45C in OZ . HTSH

Red Dot are the way to go - http://www.rdac.com/products/off-the-shelf-hvac

They have a dealer in UAE -

Refrigerated Transport Systems

Mr. Farook Cooper

Alramool Rashidiya 221 1st St. Dubai,

United Arab Emirates

Phone: +971 04-2859158

Fax: +971 04-2857545

Email: aftermarket@reddotcorp.com

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May 28, 2011

are there bays for these ready in the fuse box?

No, there's no provision in the existing Fuse/Relay Boxes, all of the Genuine Accessory Driving Lamp and Auxiliary Wiring Kits use an accessory relay mounted in the battery box.

Instructions for -

STC53208 - Auxiliary Wiring Kit

VUB500890 - Driving Lamp Kit

LR006815 - Driving Lamp Kit

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May 28, 2011

After Market I'm afraid. Vehicle wiring products used to sell a relay with an integrated fuse which I thought was a neat idea for things just like this!

Si

They still do, but they're quite expensive - 30 Amp Fused Relay R30AF - £7.25 + VAT

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/relays/relays.php

Polevolt are a lot cheaper -

http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/Standard_Mini_Relays.html

Ref: 20015A - 12 volt, 30A relay with integral 15A Fuse. N/O Contacts - £5.40 Inc. VAT

Ref: 20030A - 12 volt, 30A relay with integral 30A Fuse. N/O Contacts - £5.40 Inc. VAT

I don't know about the VWP Relays, but I've used the ones from Polevolt and they're 'Ripaults' branded.

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May 27, 2011

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The Defender Front Auxiliary Light Switch, YUG000540LNF, uses the Black connector shell (available from Dingocroft)

YUG000540LNF is a latching on/off switch, but it switches the earth path of a relay, not the live, like a conventional on/off switch.

You have to use the switch as designed if you want the Green back illumination and Orange tell-tale LEDs to work.

It's no great hardship to use it to switch the earth path, it just means that you have to take a wire from the accessory output side of your relay (terminal 87) back to terminal 5 on the switch to light the tell-tale Orange LED.

Pin 1 - From the earth side of the Relay (Pin 85)
Pin 2 - To Dash Illumination Header (or an adjacent switch)
Pin 3 - Not Used (but connected internally to Pin 4)
Pin 4 - To Dash Earth Header (or an adjacent switch)
Pin 5 - Live from Accessory side of Relay (Pin 87), for 'tell-tale' orange LED

Here's my diagram of how YUG000540LNF should be wired for auxiliary lamps -

It's quite easy to modify the switch internally to be a traditional live-switching on/off switch, I can post details/pictures if you're interested.

The above info. was previously posted here - http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=56046

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May 24, 2011

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FRC7577 is available from Britpart for a lot less than Genuine LR -

http://www.brit-car.co.uk/search.php?xSearch=frc7577&submit.x=14&submit.y=15&submit=Search

http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/6630/FRC7577-EXTENDED-WHEEL-STUD.html?search=frc7577&page=1

(they were) even cheaper from Paddocks, see here -

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=29959

and here -

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=34407

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May 23, 2011

... I've heard of it being found in Freelanders and Hondas.

Isn't the Rover 600 based on some sort of Honda?

... Then you'd solder your vehicle's wires onto the wire tails you acquired.

Or, you could use the scavenged Connector Shell with new terminals crimped onto your wires.

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May 23, 2011

I think they are like rocking horse s**t. I'm pretty sure that most of us, that have done the td5 upgrade, just buy a suitable multi plug connector and use that to connect the guage and lighting loom to the dash loom.

I think it was somewhere within the 'wibbly wobbly speedo' thread this was mentioned.

HTH

As you say, info.is in the 'wibbly wobbly speedo' thread, but I'll post it here as well.

The Connector you're looking for is a Sumitomo HD Series 14-Way Female Connector

Sumitomo Part No. - 6090-0253

If you want to try and source a used connector, they can be found in -

TD5 Defender - Main Harnesses (Main Harness to Instrument Harness - C1040)
Freelander 1 - Main Harness (Passenger Compartment Fuse Box - C0581)
Discovery II - RH Electric Seat Link Harness (C0772)

and, according to the Rover RAVE -

Rover 600 (LHD & RHD - 2.0L MEMS & Diesel) - Cabin to Side Harness, LH Side (C062)
Rover 600 (LHD & RHD - 2.0L MEMS & Diesel) - Cabin to Floor Harness, LH Side (C078)

The Female Terminals are the same as the ones used in the Hazard Warning Lights Switch -

Sumitomo 090 Female Terminals -

Part No. - 8240-4422 (for 0.5-1.25mm² cable)

Part No. - 8240-4412 (for 0.3mm² cable)

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May 23, 2011

Those ERA block locks look like they are only attached to the door frame, so if a thief has a couple of minutes (depends where it's parked) he could just undo the hinge pins on the rear door and then even with the check strap on it would move over enough to get around the block lock wouldn't it? Although it will of course slow him down which may encourage him to look elsewhere.

I suppose if you added two pins to the hinge side you could make it stay captive even if the hinges were completely removed, like they add to house front doors to increase security. The pins could be as simple as two bolts and a few holes in the frame...

I'm not making myself very clear here am I? It's a monday ;-)

Well I understood you

The items you're referring to are called 'Hinge Bolts'

They can be made quite easily, or domestic items can be adapted to suit -

The method of entry that you've described, is a weakness of the Defender design

On a more positive note - have you ever tried to undo the hinges :lol:

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May 23, 2011

sorry, I thought it had been updated with the plug parts info,

have a look at PaulMc's post here

I've just updated my post in that thread, here -

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=57336&view=findpost&p=585111

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May 23, 2011

Update on my previous post

The Black one -

http://shop.dingocroft.co.uk/acatalog/Electrical_Miscellany.html#aZZPLUG01

Connector Kit for Defender Switches Ref: ZZPLUG01

Application: Defender 2001 to 2006 with the facelift dash.

Description: Connector kit for auxillary switches on centre dash.

Price: £5.50 (£6.60 Including VAT at 20%)

The White one -

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/cart/product.php?productid=19291&cat=288&page=1

Connector Kit For Disco2 Cruise Control Switch

Details

SKU CKD2

Price: $4.00

Also available from -

http://shop.dingocroft.co.uk/acatalog/Electrical_Miscellany.html#aZZPLUG02

Connector Kit for Defender Switches Ref: ZZPLUG02

Application: Defender 2001 to 2006 with the facelift dash.

Description: Connector kit for auxillary switches on centre dash. This is a direct fit to the rear wiper switch YUG000350LNF, but will fit the other switches if the splines are removed with a small sharp blade such as a modelling scalpel.

Price: £5.25 (£6.30 Including VAT at 20%)

The Hazard Warning Light Switch Connector -

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Connectors/090_Connectors/090_connectors.html

10 Position 090 HM Connector

Fits wires from .5mm - 1.25mm (22 - 16 AWG).

With complete set of terminals.

10P090-HM $6.95 ea

Spare Terminals for the 10 Position 090 HM Connector

(handy if you've sourced an old connector from a scrappy)

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Connectors/090_Connectors/090_connectors.html

FM090 Terminals (10 males/10 females)

Fits wires from .5mm - 1.25mm (22 - 16 AWG).

FM090 10 Sets $3.95

Also available from -

http://www.kojaycat.com/Motorcycle%20connector%2010%20way.htm

10 Way Connector (HM09010)

For wires from 0 .5mm - 1.25mm (22 - 16 AWG).

Complete White connector is supplied with both male and female tinned brass terminals.

£9.25 + VAT

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May 23, 2011

I know it's fairly common practice for fuel returns to use a submerged pipe in the tank, in order to avoid excessive fuel aeration, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the case with this one I'm afraid!

Try blowing down it and seeing if it bubbles in the tank

...or try sucking on it, to see if you get a mouthful of Diesel :lol:

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May 21, 2011

Do you mean these -

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I don't remember who was selling them for Defenders, but they're ERA Block Locks -

http://www.cheaplocks.co.uk/product_detail.php?id=62

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May 15, 2011

Hi All i am currently building my own 90 i have found a td5 bulk head with wiring loom i am after the plugs that coonect the front lights up to the wings (bulk head side) also i am after engine loom plug i want to fit a 300tdi engine as well as a plug to connect to the rear lighting thanks for your help.

Phil

If there are any other connectors that you want to identify/match, then the connector number from RAVE will help us to ID them.

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May 15, 2011

PaulMc on here is a great plug/socket searcher, I bet he knows what you would need.

Cheers Ralph :i-m_so_happy:

They are these:

http://www.easternbe.../SMHW/smhw.html

Although they don't list a 14-way connector

James is correct, they're 14-way Sumitomo Sealed HW Series Connectors.

Jim Davies at Eastern Beaver is the only person I've found who sells a decent selection of Sumitomo Connectors to the public.

He used to say somewhere on his website, that if he doesn't list it he may be able to get it for you, but I can't find that on there now

It may still be worth emailing him though.

An option would be to replace your existing 14-way connector with an {8-way + 6-way}, or a {10-way + 4-way} - Sealed HW Series Connectors from Eastern Beaver.

You could release the terminals from your existing connectors and insert them into your new connector shells.

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May 13, 2011

Has anyone fitted one to their Disco

Any advice for this Essex Boy

Watling make Front Tow/Push Bars to fit - http://www.watling-towbars.co.uk/front_towbars.html

'Synapse' on the D2 Enthusiasts Forum has fitted one and has posted pictures and details -

http://thed2boysclub.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2441

I think that you have to sign-up to the forum to be able to read posts.

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May 10, 2011

The Filter Head already has provision for Oil Temp.and Pressure Senders.

Ralph (Western) has fitted them to his 200TDi Engine and documented/pictured what is required, have a look at his posts here -

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=35958

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May 6, 2011

Hi Guys,

Sorry another electric question. What is the point of the Voltage transformer in the 200tdi? It's the crazy Lucas black box.

It seems to just be for the illumination lights for the dash, is this right? I can't see this device in the td5/300tdi wiring diagrams? Does this mean there no change in voltage?

If I fit a td5 instrument warning panel and clocks do I still need this?

Cheers,

James

That sounds like the Dim-Dip Transformer, which was used to illuminate the dipped beam at low power when sidelights only were selected and the engine was running.

This 'feature' was done using the Transformer on vehicles up to about 200Tdi and from about 300Tdi onwards it was done with a (Pink) Relay and a large Resistor under the driver's wing.

It's no longer a legal requirement and can be quite safely omitted from your rewiring project.

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May 5, 2011

As Ralph has said, they're 6-way AMP Econoseal.

If you don't want to buy a male/female set, then Polevolt sell them individually -

http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/Econoseal_Connectors.html

Female

Male

Remember, the gender is denoted by the terminals, not the shell, so the connector halves you have in your picture are male.

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May 4, 2011

Anyone got a recommendation for a good (but reasonably priced) 24v charger?

I need to keep M4Mud's old hedge ornament topped up as the batteries are getting on a bit.

No personal experience of them, but based upon the experience of myself and friends who have 12V CTEK chargers, I would have a look at their professional range.

Two of the professional models are 24V chargers, another one is a dual 12/24V charger -

http://www.ctek.com/EN-GB/professional/default.aspx

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