SiWhite Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Landy broke down yesterday at my meeting with Pugwash. Clutch stopped working. Symptoms as follows; Pulled off the A303 and thought the clutch seemed a bit light - almost as if it is part way through being bled and there's still some air in the line. Stopped and pushed it in, and the pedal went down and stayed down. I pulled it back up with a toe and there it stayed. The thing is locked solid in the 'up' position, and solid as a rock. No air in it as there's still tons of resistance, and no sign of any olbvious leaks anywhere. I know it's only going to be one of a couple of things - slave cylinder, clutch fork or maybe release bearing (which has rattled since new). The clutch and fork are less than 18 months old. Any ideas guys? I'll replace the slave as a matter of course, but does it sound as if it could be the fork? Many thanks for any suggestions..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige90 Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Sounds rather familiar to my problem a few weeks ago that turned out to be the release bearing which had melted. HTH Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 sounds like how a mates fork went to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Probably the fork although being so new I would double check the hydraulics too before taking the engine/box out. If the slave were to seize in the out position (piston against the circlip) it could give the same symptom - you would have no drive though... Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiWhite Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share Posted December 27, 2006 My thoughts too Chris. I didn't think there was much it could stick / sieze against with no pressure in the hydraulic system. My only thoughts as to siezing was that the operating rod could have come out of the detent in the fork and jammed the slave closed..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 My thoughts too Chris. I didn't think there was much it could stick / sieze against with no pressure in the hydraulic system. My only thoughts as to siezing was that the operating rod could have come out of the detent in the fork and jammed the slave closed..... Guess you will have to get the slave cylinder out and have a look in the bell-housing with a mirror on a stick... Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 If it's not a problem with the slave, then I would suggest fork. Pivot point on clutch fork splits and the ball partly pushes through - so you suddenly get excess travel. Press again and ball goes through the fork and grips it, so the pedal stays down. Pull the pedal up with your foot, and you pull the innards of the slave far enough out to jam, or sometimes the innards come right out and you get total loss of clutch fluid. If it is the fork, then fit a reinforced one. (18 months is carp BTW) Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 I've seen a non gen fork go in less than a year. Then again it was made by County so that could explain it.... Don't rule the fork out anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 when you pull the slave out see if the pushrod is in roughly the same place as normal (if you can remember where normal is). when my fork went my pushrod was about 1-1.5" inside the bellhousing, normally it projetcs by about 1/4". how that varies between cars ive no idea though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Hey Si, great to meet you yesterday, i hope you got home ok. I was really unprepared to help having zero tools on me. Hope your little trip out didn't ruin your day too much. Cheers Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Landy broke down yesterday at my meeting with Pugwash. Clutch stopped working. Jim has this effect on things/people Sorry Jim, count not resist mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 i didn't break the Lara did i? (although come to think of it there was that small problem with the XCs central locking after i had had a play with it- think i'll stop digging a hole for myself now)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I Had this problem with my old 90. Turned out to be the thrush washer jammed it self into the clutch fins. Which of course bugger it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiWhite Posted December 31, 2006 Author Share Posted December 31, 2006 Well, she's finally fixed! Masses of thanks to everyong who suggested possible causes. Turns out it was the old pivot-through-the-fork problem Fitted a new genuine fork with a nice thick plate welded over the back, and new release bearing and slave cylinder for good measure. Big thanks to Will Warne who lent me his engine crane to drop the gearbox out and took the p*ss out of my rusty old wagon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Well done Si. I broke my quad this morning - which as you know I am planning to take next weekend. Only a wheel bearing fortunately so I hope to be able to mend it in the 3 days this week... Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Well done Si ! It's a nice feeling when you get in and drive it again after you've fixed it Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 glad to hear you are all fixed up Si i was a little worried about leaving you on the side of a very cold A303 the other day with only the AA to rely on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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