stevebus Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Just a quick one here chaps, is a 19j block the same as 200tdi block, apparently the cranks are the same I've read, a different part number! But was there a change in the 19j block somewhere through its life, I know there's a good and bad 19j, I've got the engine number cusp from bad to good somewhere but god only knows where I wrote it down, so could I use a bare good 19j block to build into a 200, I've got to have clear out, and if they are not compatible they'll have to go, cheer guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 They aren’t the same and you can’t put a Tdi head on a 19J block because the Tdi head oil feed is internal while the 19J’s is external. The water jacket holes may differ too. The compression ratio is less on the Tdi, which could be achieved by shorter pistons, shorter rods or a taller block - I don’t know which they used. If you can’t use the blocks, then talk to Turner Engineering or ACR - they may be able to use them and might give you some cash. Even if they don’t want to pay for them, if you give them away, it might save someone else’s LR down the line, rather than being smelted or just rusting away in a scrap yard. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 19J was updated late 1986 for 87 model year, 19J & 200tdi engine blocks & heads are not interchangeable as noted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Snagger said: Even if they don’t want to pay for them, if you give them away, it might save someone else’s LR down the line, rather than being smelted or just rusting away in a scrap yard. Often think this when people scrap engines and gearboxes. Only so many left for cores etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 I gave my old 19j block to Turners for the reason above. Better than scrapping. I even dropped it off. What amused me was the suspicion with which they regarded me for what i was doing - when i said i didnt want anything other than to recycle the engine they pretty much asked 'well what DO you want...?' 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted October 16, 2022 Author Share Posted October 16, 2022 7 hours ago, reb78 said: I gave my old 19j block to Turners for the reason above. Better than scrapping. I even dropped it off. What amused me was the suspicion with which they regarded me for what i was doing - when i said i didnt want anything other than to recycle the engine they pretty much asked 'well what DO you want...?' That's funny, I can imagine them down there being like that, but that aint a bad shout either, if I get a chance I'll run them over to them they are only 30 miles from me Thanks once again gentlemen for getting back to me, been a great help 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 10 hours ago, reb78 said: I gave my old 19j block to Turners for the reason above. Better than scrapping. I even dropped it off. What amused me was the suspicion with which they regarded me for what i was doing - when i said i didnt want anything other than to recycle the engine they pretty much asked 'well what DO you want...?' Funny, but also sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 36 minutes ago, Snagger said: Funny, but also sad. Agree. To be fair, as I left, having asked for nothing, they did say remind us who you are if you buy from us in future. I have bought bits from them but haven't worried them for a favour. Shame Frida doesnt post on here anymore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted October 16, 2022 Author Share Posted October 16, 2022 I suppose it is sad in a funny sort of way, but if I never see another 19j won't be, bloody things, I think that's how I ended up on this forum, pulling my hair out as to why a fully rebuilt engine was still giving me any amount of grief. I will go and see Turner's they are good at what they do, no shadow of a doubt, but on the prices they charge and with the greatest respect I'll take every discount they'll give me, all the the best Reb, I'll keep you posted on how I get on, meanwhile if anyone knows anyone who wants any 19j bits, theres 3 blocks, 2 heads and any amount of paraphernalia to go with them, all free to collector or I did notice someone said a contribution to the forum on something I read, Folkestone it is chaps, your welcome, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 Just for the record I spoke to Turners today, they dont want the blocks, apparently they have a rake of them, they'll take the cylinder heads when I'm passing, I've asked a couple of local 4x4 mechanics around here, no interest either, so I suppose that is quite sad, I know they were a menace those 19js but an end of an era I suppose, all the best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 The 19J block is a great basis to build a 2.5 petrol engine, using a 2.25 head. I ran this for many years on a 9:1 ratio, good engines. Daan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 has been taken, there's still 2 here if anyone wants them, and an N/A block aswell, they'll be going for scrap a week today, need the space and speaking to the people I know there's a general aim toward the 200 and 300s for obvious reasons I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Shame to see them scrapped, but if Turners can’t use any more of them, at least you tried. I’m surprised at the lack of interest, as they are a good platform for rebuilding any of the 5mb engines prior to the Tdi - they accept the heads and most other parts from all of them. If you have the crank pulley available from one, that’d be a big benefit to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 Fella, your welcome to it, I've got bits everywhere at the minute, I'll sort it out and it all yours, pay the postage and the jobs a goojun, I'll get get back to you tomorrow for an address, all the best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 If you can send it quickly, I can collect it from the hotel on my Stansted trip in a couple of days, but it might be to tight to be prudent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 Don't know about quickly, what am I doing, sending it to Stansted Airport, they'll love that, what do I tell them! Got a large lump of metal for a fella called Snagger, I can hear it now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 It’d have been the hotel. Gazzar sent an overdrive there for me! I’ll have a think about a more appropriate address and will PM you. Thanks. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 Your welcome to it fella, BUT help me now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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