stevebus Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Just a quick one here guys, I've just got a air filter box but it differs a bit from the one I'm using, it will fit where my one is now but in the picture the one sat on the wing of my car should it have an end cover like my one in the my car, if that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Your engine and existing filter housing (and the plastic elbow onto the compressor feed hose) are from a Discovery. The “new” filter housing looks to me like the Defender version. They were plumbed in with very different hoses and pipes, and their orientation differed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 2nd'd your fitted filter casing is a Discovery unit plus the drain valve should be facing down so any water can drain out. 200Tdi defender air filter caing & hoses & fittings in https://new.lrcat.com/#!/1228/20326/20390/1547 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 Thanks guys, and Western I realise about the drain there is a hole underneath for that purpose, I should of probably blanked the top hole off but didn't for what ever reason, thank you both for getting back 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallfry Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 As said, that filter housing is off a Disco 1 200Tdi. It does NOT have an end cover, it is part of the filter element, and a replacement element will have it on too. Part number is ESR1049 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 Sorry guys, if I've read this right there a conflict of opinion here, I've been through all the books I have here, Google til I'm blue in the face and thought I'd got it, but Smallfry what your saying is the one in the picture sat on my wing is the disco one, yes? I'm not questioning you, I want to know, others are saying different if I've got this right, if anyone has a part number for the one that is actually on my wagon now would be handy, thanks for your input Smallfry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 The one sitting on the wing top is missing the housing end cap that has a small moulded hand nut on the end which screws on the centre thread the element nut is secured to. This is the Discovery 200Tdi air filter housing & associated parts https://new.lrcat.com/#!/1231/32355/32356/2438 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Right I'm going to chime in here. The filter on the wing (first picture) is a 200tdi discovery unit with an after market filter in it (genuine the top is black to match the housing). I think the very early 200 disco had a different housing like the second picture but can't remember exactly. The second picture looks the same as the housing I have on my ibex which I believe is a 200 defender unit though it's mounted in, close to the 300 position (300 has the feed to the turbo going around the back of the engine). Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 Thank you all, there's quite a few different style's, without seeing them in the flesh it's difficult to know what your looking at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Later I will add so photos of a genuine LR 110/Defender 200tdi air cleaner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, western said: Later I will add so photos of a genuine LR 110/Defender 200tdi air cleaner. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 This is the problem with converted vehicles. 200Tdi Defenders had the intake in the left wing and the air filter was mounted on a slant inside the forward left wing void. 300s have a right hand side intake and a filter housing mounted on a cradle above the fuel injection pump, not far from where yours is mounted. So, you have a bit of a hybrid. It’s likely that yours is not in the 200 position because of the Discovery manifolds and turbo being inverted compared to the Defender engine, so the hoses couldn’t be made to fit easily. As long as it works correctly, I would continue to use what is fitted. I have the left side intake feeding a 12J/19J filter with the same Discover 90 degree plastic housing to hose adapter you have running directly to the turbo intake. Not ideal, perhaps, but it does the job well and was a carry-over from running a 12J. It’d be much more work than is worthwhile to update it, and would result in a lot more hoses and pipes running around the engine bay. As long as you know what you have for future parts replacement, then why worry? The filter in the first photo is not missing an end -plate. The silver end cap is the base of the filter cartridge itself, so gets renewed. The edge has a rubber seal that fits into the flared lip of the canister. I don’t think that either unit has a significant advantage over the other, so use whichever you prefer or whichever fits best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Defender spec 200Tdi air cleaner photos as promised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 It does work well on mine, and to be honest I wasn't paying Steve Parker prices, but it would still be handy to get a part number for the one that's in mine, if anybody knows it, Western sent me a link but it doesn't seem to show the one I actually have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 Nice one Western, but that isn't either of mine, no brackets to take those straps, thanks for everyone's input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Didn’t you galvanise it, Ralph? 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) Reckon yours is the Discovery 200tdi housing then in the 2nd link, to get part number click on the item number & it should put the part number below the diagram or just go to the LRCAT website. ESR1050 - AIR CLEANER ASSEMBLY ENGINE CODE 12L 2.5 TDI MANUAL - GEMINI 'CLASSIC PART' ALSO SERVICED AS PART OF A KIT ESR1050 - > AIR CLEANER ASSEMBLY ENGINE CODE 12L 2.5 TDI MANUAL - GEMINI 'CLASSIC PART' ALSO SERVICED AS PART OF A KIT Discovery Series I 1989-1998(1989 - 1998)/FUEL & EMISSION SYSTEMS/ВОЗД. ФИЛЬТР И СОПУТСТВ. ЭЛЕМЕНТЫ Edited March 5, 2023 by western Part number added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Snagger said: Didn’t you galvanise it, Ralph? 😜 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Discovery/RR 200, Defender 200 and Defender 300 for comparison. Note the Discovery canister has the drain and intake on the different sides of the canister, not both pointing downwards, unlike the two Defender versions. The exposed end plate type filter unit didn’t show up on the search. I saw an EFI filter of the same type, but the intake neck didn’t match that on your canister. I’m not sure what you have there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 That the one fella, in the first picture, thanks again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Edited the previous post to correct mistyped details about the canister differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 The wing canister is from the later years of discovery and RRC 200 TDi, Uses element ESR1049. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 Thank you muddy, what discovery 2 or something? Snagger and Western sent me link to the one I'm using, I think I'm finally where I wanted to be with it, didn't think I'd get done in by an air filter housing, thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 I can absolutely guarantee the the picture of the air box on your wing is a late model 200tdi discovery. The lid to the box is part of the filter. ESR1050 is the box and ESR 1049 is the filter I think early 200tdi discovery had a different one very similar to defender style where the filter is inside the canister with a separate lid. I can't find a part no even in the lr manual but it does list a filter NTC 1435, which is the same style as defender IE separate lid. Mike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebus Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 Nice one Mike, that's handy aswell other than the number you've given, I've now got ESR0370, ESR2102 and ESR3286 the one that Snagger and Western sent says 530170 which is the right picture in a drawing but can't seem to get a photo up of my one anywhere, getting my t/t$ to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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