Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Hi peeps. Anyone know (or care to educate a guess) In LBs Weight of a Rear Range Rover Disc Axle... Complete with diff, discs, and 2x 34 in simex on rims etc etc etc ?? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 180kgs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 how many miles have the simex done? dirty or clean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 clean, but no balance weights for you to add into the equation Nige PS thanks TC, how much is this a guess vs you "Know" ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 well a guess really as I can just pick up an rear axle and carry it a short distance add the simex and I'd struggle a front axle minus the wheels/tyres is fuggin heavy as Will and I found out loading one into his 110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 are you factoring unsprung weight into your equations now too Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 are you factoring unsprung weight into your equations now too Nige Spot on ! Into some serious "fine Tunning" ! makes quite a difference Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisha Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 i'd be thinking along the same ball park figure as Tony if youve got large tyres on/ 2 tyres/wheels probably about 40kg each ( my old 265 dirt devils on modulars were 35kg each IIRC ) axle + diff + discs must come in at about 70 to 80 on the rear and 80 to 90 on the front - it doesn't feel as much as 100kg suspension arms are going to add upto about 15 to 20kgs. i vaguely remember a discussion on making an LR axled trailer and the weight of an LR axle bog standard setup being around 150kg mark. combined with the weight of the overall trailer, it made the project unfeasiable as a useful load carrier wtihout needing over-run brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 Oh well, ................ I have calc'd meself out. have decided that 180-220kgs range and recalced...... factoring in the unsprung weights, ...... ........and have decided that I now how to just 'go for it'... Dealer phoned, .......order placed, ........and prayers started, ........... 2x brand new sprongs coming my way.............. Nige Hopefully there next appearance won't be joining the others I have (unsucessfully tried) on Classifieds secton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 well a guess really as I can just pick up an rear axle and carry it a short distance Jeez! The only time I tried to do that I let it where it was! Can you really lift a beam axle on your own and carry it around? Whoa... I'm definitely getting old... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Nige, I'd say 200+ with the extra steel on your axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Good Point Will Nige I reckon nearer 500kg with all the extra steel you've welded on... and yes I carried one onto a trailer before delivering it not to long ago. it was heavy but nowhere near the weight of a front axle fully built Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lara Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Now un-sprung weight is a difficult question, and remember that for performance calculations you need to remember that it should be a percentage of the sprung weight, IE, a 2 ton car with 500lbs of wheels and axles will control the suspension differently than a 1 ton car with 500lbs of axles, AND, Is the spring sprung or un sprung? Is the radius arm sprung or un-sprung? Steering arms, Panhard rod, shockabsorbers? And if so how bigger percentage? I don't want to know and certainly can not be bothered to calculate that lot for a Landrover that is never going to realistically "handle" anyway Good luck Lara. What about when you go over a bump and leave the seat? should you then deduct the driver and co drivers weight My brain hurts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Suddenly I wonder of a forum meeting at the pub,talking about suspension science. Suddenly a laugh... Got the vision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lara Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Suddenly I hide under my Anorack Lara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 Lara, We've had a vote, its Your round 1st Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lara Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I've just gone to the loo, Sorry mate Lara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 We'll have the orders for you when you get back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Nige, I'd say all up about 2 LB's....depending on whether I've had a big tea and how much schrapnel I have in my pockets..... I'll get my coat shall I ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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