streaky Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 So as not to get mixed up in the other thread which occasionally refers to the actual product in question..... Whats the steel type used for the shovel? Would it be Chrome Moly steel? My mate managed to bend the 6mm thick shovel of his home made effort and we'd like to have something made a wee bit stronger. I have a genuine Pull Pal and rekon the steel used for the shovel is much harder than ordinary mild steel plate. Anyone care to add? Thx. S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddballrovers Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 So as not to get mixed up in the other thread which occasionally refers to the actual product in question..... Whats the steel type used for the shovel? Would it be Chrome Moly steel? My mate managed to bend the 6mm thick shovel of his home made effort and we'd like to have something made a wee bit stronger. I have a genuine Pull Pal and rekon the steel used for the shovel is much harder than ordinary mild steel plate. Anyone care to add? Thx. S. Hi Streaky. Here in Denmark almost everybody uses "Hardox 400" 5-6mm thick for the shovel. Ole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtail4x4 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Streaky mate I may be able to find some harder stronger stuff, let me know how big? oooeeeerrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streaky Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 Thanks Ole & Mike BT. The size is 24 inches X 12 inches but I don't think it would be cost effective to send a sheet over Mike. Now I know what grade of steel to look for we might be able to make something that doesn't bend at the tip so easily. Thanks & best regards. S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtail4x4 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 ok I have a mate with an engineering place who has some extra hard wearing stuff dunno what it is i just used some to face a digging bucket on the tractor, and i cant dent it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddballrovers Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Hi Streaky.Here in Denmark almost everybody uses "Hardox 400" 5-6mm thick for the shovel. Ole. Hi Thought I also would add a couple off pics for inspiration, we have now been using this design for 4-5 years in Denmark with great succes, the spade is as far as I know almost twice the X-eng one, we do need that for the danish soil, it holds well in everything but lose gravel, if you want I can get the ruler out during the weekend and get the mesures for you. Its only drawback is the weight 15 kg. Kind regards Ole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nas90 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Hi Thought I also would add a couple off pics for inspiration, we have now been using this design for 4-5 years in Denmark with great succes, the spade is as far as I know almost twice the X-eng one, we do need that for the danish soil, it holds well in everything but lose gravel, if you want I can get the ruler out during the weekend and get the mesures for you. Its only drawback is the weight 15 kg. Kind regards Ole. Hardox is slightly the wrong application although a good quality steel. Domex 700 is a more suitable grade for your application since it has a tensile strength of 700N/mm2 (Newtons per millimetre squared). SimonR used this information to design his very lightweight spade design since standard mild steel designated S275JR (275N/mm2) is less than half the strength of Domex 700. Hardox is what it says, for hard wearing applications and not necessarily ductile enough for a spade. The big advantage with Domex 700 is that even welded / folded / laser cut structures still exhibit the same characteristics of ductility and strength as the base material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brookers Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I'm looking to get a ground anchor to use with my RR classic, what are you guys useing? What do you recomend? Cheers Brookers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I suggest you read the recent threads on this and do a seach for "anchor" there is no single answer as to what is best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I'm looking to get a ground anchor to use with my RR classic, what are you guys useing? What do you recomend?Cheers Brookers Oh as you go through it do mind out for a few teddies thrown out here and there Please leave all of them - a Teddy is for Life - Not just for Christmas you know, ........Hopefully the owner should be along soon to retrieve them Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 90 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Oh as you go through it do mind out for a few teddies thrown out here and there Please leave all of them - a Teddy is for Life - Not just for Christmas you know, ........Hopefully the owner should be along soon to retrieve them Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Oh as you go through it do mind out for a few teddies thrown out here and there Please leave all of them - a Teddy is for Life - Not just for Christmas you know, ........Hopefully the owner should be along soon to retrieve them Nige That's brightened up my day, Nige! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brookers Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Oh god I should never had asked! Dont worry I left all the teddies where they were though some of them said they had only just got back from a picknick Who is importing the pulll pal? Cheers Brookers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoDino Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Hey Streaky!! How's the desert? I bent my Pull Pal shovel and had to re-inforce it with angle iron on the back of the blade...haven't used it since doing that mod, but I guess it'll work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streaky Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 Hey Streaky!! How's the desert?I bent my Pull Pal shovel and had to re-inforce it with angle iron on the back of the blade...haven't used it since doing that mod, but I guess it'll work... Hey there Nadim...good to hear from you! All's well thanks....the season is upon us again and we've got some serious trips lined up for 08'. I hadn't thought about that! Reinforcment with angle iron might be a good solution. The ground anchor in question is a proto type of 200 being made for local sale. The folding sections are all working perfectly and have been galvenised. The first two shovels were for testing purposes and it was one of those that failed under strain from a LWB Patrol. I'll give your suggestion a try and subject it to the same feild tests. Take care! Best regards. Streaky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I did the same to my spade - bit of angle iron along the spine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Oh god I should never had asked! Dont worry I left all the teddies where they were though some of them said they had only just got back from a picknick Who is importing the pulll pal? Cheers Brookers Don't know who is sole importer of Pull Pal, but Difflock do stock it. http://shop.difflock.com/pullpal-m-4.html?...357780d5d7ebe71 Someone on one of the other topics said they had to weld angle Iron to the back of their spade of a Pull Pal as it broke. So assume they are good for some applications and not others. http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?s=&s...st&p=214754 Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 <Cough> ^%^*% &(^$$(@##!!! £495 for a ground anchor At that price you might as well buy an old Series 3 and bury that if you need something to winch off! Or buy 3 X-Anchors and keep the change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoDino Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 In some countries for that money you can hire a group of people following you and use manpower when needed...and when not, they can do entertainment as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 <Cough> ^%^*% &(^$$(@##!!! £495 for a ground anchor At that price you might as well buy an old Series 3 and bury that if you need something to winch off! Or buy 3 X-Anchors and keep the change Could always ask some friends, to club together and have a 3 way split. Yeah is expensive, interesting write up if do search on google from USA: http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/pullpal00/ It won't grip in loose shale - really. Hey check out these trucks: http://www.jeepinpnw.com/news1.html Interestingly they use the 9000lb one - which folds down to a handy 4ft size - but can't see where in UK to get this one. Actually cant see it on Pull Pal website either - odd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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