clarkie2772 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 hi all I am sorry for posting a question that has undoubtably been posted before but i have read through an awful lot of posts and have not come up with the correct one anyway.......my landy wont start the battery is ok although i now have it on charge, this morning I attempted to start her up, heated up the glow plugs for 30/45 secs then tried to turn her over the starter motor made all the correct noises (i think), but the engine would not start and eventually I drained the battery, is this likely to be a glow plug or a starter motor problem? by the way it is a 2.5n/a engine and my mechanical knowledge is limited, I would greatly appreciate some help? all the best Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_J Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Does it keep turning or just click? Since I fitted a larger capacity battery It starts on the first turn with 10 seconds of glow plugs at the most in any temperature. Had really trouble starting at all in the cold before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegibbs Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 My 2.5na always likes a lot of heater plugs when cold but always starts no matter how cold. The only time it lets me down is when a plug or two are u/s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I love how all the cold-start threads pop up after every recent bout of cold weather :-) I've just had the same problem with my N/A - despite fitting a new battery (a 1000 mch beast from X-eng) and plugs a month ago. It wouldn't start in temps of -5. The cranking was so slow that it was never going to happen - voltage read 12.16 on the new battery. Annoyingly - I swapped the battery for the old less powerful one (which had been in the back of the truck since removal and therefore exposed to the same conditions - and it cranked first time! Grr! I shall be sending a stiff email to X-eng methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defender dave Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I love how all the cold-start threads pop up after every recent bout of cold weather :-)I've just had the same problem with my N/A - despite fitting a new battery (a 1000 mch beast from X-eng) and plugs a month ago. It wouldn't start in temps of -5. The cranking was so slow that it was never going to happen - voltage read 12.16 on the new battery. Annoyingly - I swapped the battery for the old less powerful one (which had been in the back of the truck since removal and therefore exposed to the same conditions - and it cranked first time! Grr! I shall be sending a stiff email to X-eng methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy andy. Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Have you tested your glow plugs are working? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkthe1 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 i used to keep my older battery in the back for starting in cold weather as it inevitably ran the battery down. that worked quite well, although was only a temperary solution till i got a brand new battery. someone (not sure who, but i dont think they were uk) mentioned some hotshot plugs or something which could go straight into a nad and worked like a dream. might be worth a search/ someone with a good memory posting what i mean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Well I did overhaul the whole plug system when the new ones went in a month ago. I'll have a poke around this weekend to check the earths - but even so, when I say my truck was cranking slowly...i mean it. I could feel each revolution! I'm pretty certain that if Defenders were equipped with cranking handles, I could have done a better job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy andy. Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Have you checked the connection on to the starter motor, and the earth on to the block. You could try a jump lead from Neg on the battery straight to the block or body of the starter motor to test the earth. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkie2772 Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 well just to update thanks for all the advice my plugs are all fine i re charged the battery and sprayed some* start all*in the air intake and it started first time cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Grr!I shall be sending a stiff email to X-eng methinks. Does it need a 'stiff email'? If there is a problem with any of our products or services - you only need to ask and we'll replace or refund as necessary. It's not as if we have deliberately swindled you? Have you tried jump starting from another known good battery/vehicle? If that worked then the battery could either be faulty or just flat. Measure the terminal voltage with the ignition off, then the vehicle running. Ignition off it should read over 12v and engine running, over 13.8v and less than 14.6v. If the voltage is in the right range while the engine is running, but below 12v (having allowed sufficient time for the battery to charge) - then the battery may be faulty. If it's above 12v, the battery is probably OK - I would check the wiring - particularly the earth from the battery to the starter which people often forget. Otherwise, the problem is most likely with the alternator. I had an email from a chap in the Ukraine last week who says how pleased he is with the batteries. "It's -12C and still starts my 200tdi Disco easily". So there is nothing inherently wrong with the batteries at low temperatures. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Does it need a 'stiff email'? If there is a problem with any of our products or services - you only need to ask and we'll replace or refund as necessary. It's not as if we have deliberately swindled you?Have you tried jump starting from another known good battery/vehicle? If that worked then the battery could either be faulty or just flat. Measure the terminal voltage with the ignition off, then the vehicle running. Ignition off it should read over 12v and engine running, over 13.8v and less than 14.6v. If the voltage is in the right range while the engine is running, but below 12v (having allowed sufficient time for the battery to charge) - then the battery may be faulty. If it's above 12v, the battery is probably OK - I would check the wiring - particularly the earth from the battery to the starter which people often forget. Otherwise, the problem is most likely with the alternator. I had an email from a chap in the Ukraine last week who says how pleased he is with the batteries. "It's -12C and still starts my 200tdi Disco easily". So there is nothing inherently wrong with the batteries at low temperatures. Si Yes you're perfectly right. I do apologise for jumping to conclusions. When I typed that I was probably a still a little irritated at being late for work with the truck not starting. I appreciate there are many fundamentals that do need checking properly before getting on the high-horse and firing off the poison pen letters! I'll do what you suggest - I'm sure the problem lies within the grubbiness of the loom and has only been exacerbated by my ignorance! Thanks for your advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 If the problem does turn out to be with the battery after all - just drop us a line and it will be replaced by return. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy_neutron Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 If the problem does turn out to be with the battery after all - just drop us a line and it will be replaced by return.Si So nice to hear of good and friendly service. Can't u buy out land rover and shake up the whole dealer experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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