Bobtail-Jay Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Is it me or has this cage on this discovery got no proper bends in it? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-ROVER-DISCOVERY...A1%7C240%3A1318 Quote
custom-conversions Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Is it me or has this cage on this discovery got no proper bends in it?http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-ROVER-DISCOVERY...A1%7C240%3A1318 "A FULL EXTERNAL ROLL CAGE CUSTOM MADE BY FJT SAFETY DEVICES- £1100" Custom made for sure! Quote
custom-conversions Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 I guess scaffold tube doesn't bend nicely then! Quote
Bobtail-Jay Posted January 6, 2009 Author Posted January 6, 2009 I guess scaffold tube doesn't bend nicely then! Lol Quote
ThreeSheds Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 To me it looks more like a home made roof rack: :o Quote
PITBULL Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 1100 i think he hit to many keys 110 or 100 possibly Quote
Bobtail-Jay Posted January 6, 2009 Author Posted January 6, 2009 If it was 1100 i think he got ripped off just a bit . Quote
freeagent Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 I wouldn't even want to tie my Dog to that let alone rely on it in a roll-over.... Quote
Bobtail-Jay Posted January 6, 2009 Author Posted January 6, 2009 What a way to make a nice discovery look horrible. Jay. Quote
Dunc Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Interesting to see it has "uprated / hardened springs". Case hardened for extra shattering perhaps? I guess he means they're stiffer. I despair at some of the grammar and spelling on ebay adverts. Quote
custom-conversions Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Interesting to see it has "uprated / hardened springs".Case hardened for extra shattering perhaps? I guess he means they're stiffer. I despair at some of the grammar and spelling on ebay adverts. Its also got "QT CORRECTION RADIUS ARMS 6 INCH" Quote
Dunc Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Its also got "QT CORRECTION RADIUS ARMS 6 INCH" LOL, i missed those! Quote
roguevogue Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 What a way to make a nice discovery look horrible. Absolutely! I despair at some of the grammar and spelling on ebay adverts. I've seen worse on this forum! Quote
Disco-Ron Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 That is hideos... i'm sure Safety Devices would like to know he's using their name in vane... no way did they make that shambles...!! Quote
smo Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 That is hideos... i'm sure Safety Devices would like to know he's using their name in vane... no way did they make that shambles...!! FJT Safety devices....not the safety devices. Either way its an abortion of a "cage".... Quote
Disco-Ron Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Oh yeh... doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the safety aspect og it though does it..LOL!! Quote
ste clark Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 i have loads of scaffolding tube here........ all i need is some hubba bubba to join it together and hey presto!!! if anyone wants one i can make them for £800.. saving you £300........ i will only need your car for an hour to build and assemble it too.................... i shall now sit back and wait for the orders to flow in... it worked for this company!!! Quote
Bobtail-Jay Posted January 6, 2009 Author Posted January 6, 2009 i have loads of scaffolding tube here........ all i need is some hubba bubba to join it together and hey presto!!! if anyone wants one i can make them for £800.. saving you £300........ i will only need your car for an hour to build and assemble it too.................... i shall now sit back and wait for the orders to flow in... it worked for this company!!! When can you do mine Jay. Quote
denviks Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 i have loads of scaffolding tube here........ all i need is some hubba bubba to join it together and hey presto!!! if anyone wants one i can make them for £800.. saving you £300........ i will only need your car for an hour to build and assemble it too.................... i shall now sit back and wait for the orders to flow in... it worked for this company!!! oh , how disapointing. you are too far away to do that work :lol: i think it looks awful but i suppose we cant all like the same. ......bet it would fold well Quote
Alistair P Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Based on the sellers geographic location (Stoke on Trent) and a quick Google search, the company responsible for that cage may well be "FJT Welding and Fabrication" of Stoke On Trent. There are a couple of other relevant threads running on this forum at the moment, not least of all http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopi...hl=modification but also http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopi...hl=modification I think that everything said at the first reference pretty much applies here; I wonder where the liability would lie if you did put the thing on its roof and those welds just fell apart.... The absence of a centre upright behind the driver's door is also pretty surprising. The reason that I bring up the second reference is that I have noticed a tendency on this forum for many of those with a great deal of experience at building and modifying their own vehicles for competition, or 'serious' off-road use only, (i.e. mud plugging at pay to play sites / act as extras vehicles in Mad Max (lets face it, some of these vehicles, whilst optimised with one purpose in mind, are seriously ugly trucks)), to mock the attempts of those with a lot less experience to build capable weekend off roaders using the "bolt on" approach of off-the-shelf products from the range of suppliers (yes, including our old favourite, Scorpion). The prevailing attitude seems to be that unless you can 'fab' your own parts, or at the very least go to a local fabricator to make a custom part for you, you are in some way a lesser mortal compared to the gods who can. This attitude I might add puts an awful lot of people off membership of certain LR clubs - but that's another thread.... Whilst I do find it 'surprising' that this owner didn't just get himself a Camel spec cage from Safety Devices and bolt it in (tried, tested, better looking, more subtle and significantly cheaper) I don't think it particularly fair that those who would in one breath mock his efforts to improve the off road capability of his vehicle by using a lot of off-the-shelf bolt-on kit are apparently so eager in the next breath to turn around and lambaste his efforts with 'custom' work even if (as in this case) they are undoubtedly a complete abortion. We all have to start somewhere, and part of his learning experience would be to put his truck on its roof for the first time and find out the hard way that whoever built that cage was in fact a monkey. This would ensure that he did it right the second time on his next project. This is how humans learn. What is more unfortunate is that someone has just bid £3,500 on that particular auction for a base vehicle which can't be worth much more than £1500 with the panel damage.... perhaps the buyer intends to cut the cage off and put a proper one on? Has anyone got any shining examples of other work that FJT has produced? Quote
custom-conversions Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Based on the sellers geographic location (Stoke on Trent) and a quick Google search, the company responsible for that cage may well be "FJT Welding and Fabrication" of Stoke On Trent. Thats a really poor effort for a professional welding & fabrication company to produce. If it was home made its better than nothing & functional (but not exactly safe). Presume the owner built the rest of the truck himself which is great. But for £1300 all mocking is justified & I don't think any comments mean to offend anyone. Quote
Turbocharger Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Phew - if these guys are the same shower offering their services to the Ford owners club, we've been lucky to avoid their 'squash and spatter' cage technique up to now! http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/index...?showtopic=1929 Quote
T1G UP Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 It would stand up to some rubbing but not a decent roll over. Maybe the poor chaps been duped into thinking this is OK for £1100. Or he is FJT?? Any how makes my cage etc look good value Quote
Les Henson Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 to mock the attempts of those with a lot less experience to build capable weekend off roaders using the "bolt on" approach of off-the-shelf products from the range of suppliers (yes, including our old favourite, Scorpion). The prevailing attitude seems to be that unless you can 'fab' your own parts, or at the very least go to a local fabricator to make a custom part for you, you are in some way a lesser mortal compared to the gods who can. This attitude I might add puts an awful lot of people off membership of certain LR clubs - but that's another thread.... I think the above statement is entirely wrong. Les. Quote
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