zulublue Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 As title, is there a special splitter or larger size for the A frame ball joint, I only have what I would call a standard splitter, if they are available who sells them please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ3120 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 when I split my A frame ball joint, I just gave it a tap and it came apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulublue Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share Posted February 15, 2009 when I split my A frame ball joint, I just gave it a tap and it came apart Hi Russ, tried that I have even jacked the truck up on the balljoint shaft and give it a hammer, but it likes it where it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Have you tried supporting the truck on the chassis and then putting a jack under the diff nose? As you raise the diff nose keep trying to separate the joint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clbarclay Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I just pry the A frame away from the axle using propper long bar, anf the whack the side of the casing with a single handed sledage hammer. A second person to apply the prying load does help, though I have done it on my own before by just hanging a weight of the end of the bar. Leave the nut on the ball joint a couple of turns so that the joint doesn't fly apart, causing grief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jericho Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Big pry bar,5 foot scaffold tube slid over it,someone stood on the end - hit axle mounting point with sledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkk2 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 No 6 Birmingham screwdriver, applied with gusto :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 You can get bigger ball joint splitters - I had to get one to separate the ball joint on the Range Rover A-frame (it was still a swine even with the proper tools). Whereabouts in 'Middle England' are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tel Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 weird as i was told these were a right pig to do i took my a frame off today to fit poly bushes undid the nut beat the **** out of it with a hammer on the outercasing to try and shock it loose then used a 4' bar and it popped straight off i was well relived as ive heard many horror storys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 It seems to be one of those 'your mileage may vary' jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulublue Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share Posted February 15, 2009 You can get bigger ball joint splitters - I had to get one to separate the ball joint on the Range Rover A-frame (it was still a swine even with the proper tools). Whereabouts in 'Middle England' are you? Hi Geoff, I am in Coleshill J4 of M6. It's just one of those things, I swapped the rear axle for a Disco 1 unit the old defender axle came of no problem but this one has been a pig, I work on my own so can be fun at times, I do need to get hold of a long bar to be honest, also need to find a press near by to get the old ball joint out, I don't think it's gone but as the bushes need changing I might as well do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintman Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 weird as i was told these were a right pig to doi took my a frame off today to fit poly bushes undid the nut beat the **** out of it with a hammer on the outercasing to try and shock it loose then used a 4' bar and it popped straight off i was well relived as ive heard many horror storys Its the getting the ball joint out of the carrier thats the fun part. And then getting it back in & lined up so its retaining bolts fit. Next one I do is going to get taken to the local engineering shop after I've got it off the end of the frame. They have a HUGE press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tel Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Its the getting the ball joint out of the carrier thats the fun part. And then getting it back in & lined up so its retaining bolts fit.Next one I do is going to get taken to the local engineering shop after I've got it off the end of the frame. They have a HUGE press. if thats the case then im gona be stuck as my ball joints had it so will be replacing next weekend thought i got off lightly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulublue Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 Untill you try you never know, I would soak it in WD40 24/48hrs before hand, a press or large vice will be need for an easier job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintman Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Last one I did was on my RRC. Got the old one out by beating it with a big lump hammer. Got the new one in by putting threaded rods into the holes in the carrier & using nuts & washers to pull it into position. Bl++++ hard work. But, as I said earlier, next one goes to the local engineers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulublue Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 The A-Frame war was started today, the A Frame to chassis bolts came out very easily, I removed the nut but kept the bolt it until the ball joint came out, and then it started I decided to give it a good spray of WD40 and a whack with the lump hammer to loosen it up, I inserted a 5ft bar under the A Frame and above the axle and started to add pressure and more and more until I was bouncing on the damn thing, at 19.5 stone I would have thought that would have moved it but no the bar bent instead. So a few more hits with the Birmingham screwdriver as recommended above and tried again, still the same so got a lump of 4"x4" timber and sat it on the trolley jack and jacked the A Frame up to the wheels were just about to lift off the ground, it then got its third hiding to nothing at which point it decided to give in and pop out. Thank F%^& for that, went to a mates garage, in to a large vice whacked the ball joint out, on to the press popped the bushes out, pressed in the new ball joint (why do they have those bolts on the ball joint where is it expected to go?) pushed the bushes in and home I went, took about 10 minutes that bit. I cleaned the bush mounts off, greased them up to aid fitting, and my god was it a tight fit, ended up removing the exhaust so I could jack the bushes in to place, I think I made the mistake of inserting the ball joint and loosely tightening it up, this seemed to play havoc with the angles at the bushes end, got one bolt in, but the other was been a pig so stopped had a think, and shouted MOM.................... can you put your back against the tub and rock the truck side to side, not bad at 65 I then put a bar behind the tricky side and it edged forward, thanks mom :-) So its all done, I have not driven it yet as I then fitted the tub floor which I removed to fit the cage. X-Brake and Mud console from the show tomorrow so more to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tel Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 ive just done the same thing to mine but we just fitted the heavy duty ball joint from paddocks more like heavy duty ball ache the thing was stupidly difficault to get it got thee in the end with a drift a big lump hammer and some longer bolts to help pull it down it still wont go all the way flat now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Alford Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 nothing quite has the same effect as a metre length of scaffold tube! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1G UP Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Doing mine now. got a x eng wide angled jobby. A sharp tap witha lil lump hammer and out she came. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Alford Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 just be careful as its sprung make sure it dont ping up andf make a nice dent on ur boot floor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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