Green Lane in need of TLC

[discomikey]

I was walking a commonly used 4x4 green lane today, and however fun it looked, I could see why walkists and horseists complain so much, a standard land rover would not even be able to complete it, even though they are very good off road, even a not so standard car would struggle.

This is why I thought if a group of us in the Longcliffe, (inbetween Bakewell and Buxton) near Ashbourne area would all chip in a little of our own money and time, we could fill in the holes and make it much more managable, even with a standard mitsubishi (no offense to mistu owners, but I have witnessed that on that very lane, a new L200 grounded, lifting both 2 front wheels clean off the track). I already have a coulpe of volunteers, and all of my off road chums will join, so that is already 7 of us, i have a tractor, trailer, and other equipment needed, we just need people willing.

mikey

[Anderzander]

Its a fair way from me - but if the date you set fits I can come and give some time.

[discomikey]

Cheers for that, I have not really got any details at the moment, as I only thought of doing it today,

Ii will be able to get permission to do it as I know the landowner, it will probably be done one weekend in the nearish future.

mikey

[Dave W]

Have you got approval/authorisation for the repairs ?

Remember that one man's "filling a hole" is another man's fly tipping ! Make sure what you are doing is officially sanctioned or you can find yourself in hot water.

[Paul Humphreys]

Have you got approval/authorisation for the repairs ?

Remember that one man's "filling a hole" is another man's fly tipping ! Make sure what you are doing is officially sanctioned or you can find yourself in hot water.

Yes you WILL need permission from the council for doing the work, you will need insurance for all the people doing the work. If you do it right then it is not a problem. A lot of councils will provide stone to fill the holes. If it was me then I would tell the coulcil about the lane and ask them what they are doing about it as they might have alreadey got it in hand and waiting to fill it. If not then offer help with it. CRAG and GLASS both have insurance for covering things like this.

Paul

[David Sparkes]

I'm with Dave W on this.

You are talking about working on a public highway. In this context I'm not sure how "I will be able to get permission to do it as I know the landowner" fits in. A willingness to help is to be applauded, but in order to be fully effective the willingness has to encompass working with Authorities, who may have slightly different priorities and views.

Have you heard of PDVUG and GLASS? Both have an effective relationship with the local authorities in Derbyshire. Effective in that they get consulted, asked to meetings being held with local Councils representing concerned residents, and are able to speak unofficially on first name terms with local specialists, such as Peak Park Rangers and the Police Officer running Operation Blackbrook.

Effective does not mean that PDVUG and the local GLASS have carte blanche to undertake road repairs on a whim.

OTOH. A small group, working with little publicity, on an occasional basis (creating no 'pattern of attendance'), and picking times with care (say avoiding any Sunday, and any Bank Holiday weekend), might get away with 30 minutes infilling. You will appreciate that "I have a tractor, trailer, and other equipment needed" doesn't tie in with this approach. Don't expect any protection if caught, accept the bollocking without complaint, don't try to claim, via membership of an organisation, authorisation or protection for your action which doesn't exist.

Probably the best that you can hope for (if caught) is the summary 'heart's in the right place, just misguided in applying his enthusiasm'.

Don't expect thanks, and don't crow about your achievements.

All that is personal opinion, I have no authority or influence in this area. So if we have different views it's of no importance, although you won't expect me to be sympathetic to any later whinging :-)

Without intending to squash your good intentions, I'd suggest these things shouldn't be discussed on ANY open forum, that includes LR4x4 and GLASS. GLEAM is effective because they do good (silent) intelligence work, and don't go in for public discussion. They will seek to represent your good intentions as illegal actions, with no mitigation.

Instead, join GLASS, speak to the local rep so you understand the broader picture. There is an element of politics - it's unavoidable.

Cheers.

[GBMUD]

I was walking a commonly used 4x4 green lane today, and however fun it looked, I could see why walkists and horseists complain so much, a standard land rover would not even be able to complete it, even though they are very good off road, even a not so standard car would struggle.....

.....a group of us in the Longcliffe, (inbetween Bakewell and Buxton) near Ashbourne area would all chip in a little of our own money and time, we could fill in the holes and make it much more managable,....

Good for you Mikey.

Take the advice given and get the local authority involved too. As suggested, it is their surface and you need their permission to mend it, not that of the guy who owns the land under the surface - as perverse as that sounds.

Chris

[discomikey]

been beaten to it, drove past the other day on my way to hartington quarry, via my friends house where my landy is currently at, and there was 3 large piles of chatter next to it.

mikey

[SPendrey]

Maybe there's a lesson here? If we post about us fixing other routes, maybe someone else will fix them first? :-)

[Guest noggy]

which lane is this may i ask mikey?

if there are any lanes that need cleaning up, ill certainly join in (aslong as we have finished silaging ) , its nice to put names to faces etc.

[discomikey]

which lane is this may i ask mikey?

if there are any lanes that need cleaning up, ill certainly join in (aslong as we have finished silaging ) , its nice to put names to faces etc.

silaging, already

bit wet isnt it, although bradburys finished theirs in the sunny week last week.

we arent silaging for awhile yet.

im not sure of the lanes name, not exactly how to get to it lol, its near me on a small road somewhere towards the newhaven direction. its being taken care of by the local council wardeny person, i have been talking to him and he sed that he was planning to do it for a while now and finally got round to it.

mikey