HotRod Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I'd appreciate some advice please -my winch is dead.... There's power to the input terminal (A) from the battery, but nothing else. There's no power sent to terminal B or the other two when you switch the remote control, even when you bypass the switch and takle power direct to the X inputs. If I try to apply power directly to the B terminal or the others, there's sparks! so I can't test the motor directly. The drum runs freely on disconnect. Should the solenoid click like a relay? if so looks like it may be dead? Are replacement solenoids available? I assume that A (or the one behind it) will be the 12v heavy output for the winch motor (?) -can I use jump leads from A to B to test test winch motor? Thanks Simon Just looked online, seems Britpart wants 200 quid for a whole new lid/solenoid (part DB1303) if that is faulty - gulp...got to be a cheaper way?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 change it for a genuine Albright waterproof soleniod pack. a lot less than 200 quid & there's a connection diagarm in the tech archive here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 ****part? Do you still have the box it came in......? Ahem, sorry, as Ralph said, get yourself an albright, but only after bypassing the existing solenoid and checking the winch responds to direct inputs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I assume that A (or the one behind it) will be the 12v heavy output for the winch motor (?) -can I use jump leads from A to B to test test winch motor? Nope, Firstly, on the motor make sure it has good ground connected. Then put a jumper between A and F1, and positive on F2 and motor will turn in on direction, then move jumper between A and F2 with pos on F1 and motor will turn in other direction. If it does then it's solenoids or wiring. If wiring ok change out solenoids. As said above get an Albright or good copy from the likes of FirstFour. It will set you back ~£40-60 Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRod Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 Thanks for the advice guys -the soleniod price sounds better than buying half a winch if that is the problem! Sadly don;t have a box as the winch was fitted when I bought the Landy! Re the ....... On my marked up photo -which are F1 and F2? [ie are they 'B ', the terminal directly behind B or the temrianl behind A? I I tried to bridge A to other terminals with a wire but got sparks as I connected (not suprisingly) but can link them more safely with the power off (isolator switch) & then switch on to test motor -just need to suss which ones are fwd/rev. Winch earth is undisturbed and previously fine. Thanks Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 The F1, F2 and A terminals are on the outside of the winch motor. Probably under protective caps that once removed will show nut and thread type terminals. And yes solenoids should click like relays. Similar sounds to when a starter motor clicks but doesn't turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRod Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 The F1, F2 and A terminals are on the outside of the winch motor. Probably under protective caps that once removed will show nut and thread type terminals.And yes solenoids should click like relays. Similar sounds to when a starter motor clicks but doesn't turn. Andy - thanks for that, makes sense of course to jump to the motor itself to test it, rather than the outputs of the solenoid (though if wiring is sound, should have same effect). Any idea which colour is which? No sign of life from the solenoid so I'm guessing its fried! Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Any idea which colour is which? On my Warn the F1 and F2 wires are red.....so not much help to either of us. When I had similar fault on my Warn, I free spooled out some of the rope and then tried the terminals, in case you get it wrong it doesn't try to wind in an already tight rope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 You can usually determine A, F1, F2 frm their positioning on the motor. A will be on it's own towards the end of the motor away from the winch, whilst F1 and F2 will be together towards the shaft-end of the motor. It doesn't matter which is field terminal is F1 or F2, if your winch works in the opposite direction to what you'd expect, just swap the wires around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRod Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 Re: Firstly, on the motor make sure it has good ground connected. Then put a jumper between A and F1, and positive on F2 and motor will turn in on direction, then move jumper between A and F2 with pos on F1 and motor will turn in other direction. If it does then it's solenoids or wiring. If wiring ok change out solenoids. Looks like I was unlucky choosing to label the feed terminal 'A' when the diagram includes a terminal A being one of the others.... So... if I'm referring to the terminals in my photo as Left closest/Left behind and Right closest/Right behind - which ones are the A, F1 and F2 please??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 It's a bit awkward to say from looking at the solenoids. you need to look at the motor. From there you'll be able to trace the cables back. Personally, I'd disconnect the solenoids from the motor and test each in isolation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I agree with luke. Firstly check that the winch is well earthed (earth wire normally connects to the underside of the winch motor housing.) The earth should run back to the battery. Now disconnect the three terminals on top of the winch. Now try the tests described above. You must completely separate the solenoid pack form the winch to get conclusive results. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris x Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Hi Guys, Sorry to bump an old thread! Having an issue with my DB9500i Britpart winch. The cable unwinds fine with the motor, but when pressing the remote to wind the cable back in, I can hear a clicking sound when pressing the button and nothing happens with the motor. Not sure if its a solenoid fault? Going to have a play with it tonight. As said above, I have been quoted £210 for a new solenoid. I see western has posted a link that no longer works. Could anyone confirm if this would be ok if I replaced it with my existing solenoid? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zim Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 http://www.devon4x4.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&category_id=127&product_id=7&Itemid=14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris x Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Perfect! Will order one tonight if I cant get my current one working! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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