ollie nz Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Hi All,yesterday I noticed a couple of fluid drops on the floor mat (03 Defender TD5 120,000ks)traced it to clutch pedal. Just wondering if it is comming from master cylinder or elsewhere,and can I fix it myself,pretty good at DIY,or will I need to take it into the Stealer,any response will be much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 leaking master cylinder if showing fluid on floor mat & running down back of pedal arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oap Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Hi All,yesterday I noticed a couple of fluid drops on the floor mat (03 Defender TD5 120,000ks)traced it to clutch pedal. Just wondering if it is comming from master cylinder or elsewhere,and can I fix it myself,pretty good at DIY,or will I need to take it into the Stealer,any response will be much appreciated Like Western said that will be the master cylinder. I got one from Paddocks in the post today and hope to fit it Saturday, I've have not done this job before but there is a good guide on how its done here in the tech help section and if you don't have a go you will never learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie nz Posted April 21, 2010 Author Share Posted April 21, 2010 leaking master cylinder if showing fluid on floor mat & running down back of pedal arm. Thankyou,will give it a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diver110 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Thankyou,will give it a try very simple to do so don't be afraid to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oap Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 very simple to do so don't be afraid to try. I've just spent the last 4 hours replacing the master cylinder and now I've no clutch. It was fine before I started just the fluid running down the pedal. Maybe I've not blead it properly I used a one way valve thing from Halfords that may be faulty (poor work men always blame there tools). If I press the pedal right to the floor I can just manage to get all forward gears but not reverse. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 have you set the pushrod up as per the woprkshop manual ? I used a one way valve to bleed my clutch it took a bit of time & is fine now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 How far does the pedal travel down before you feel any pressure on it? Does the pedal return to the top on it's own? Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oap Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Thanks for the help Western and no I did not follow that guide I just copyed the distance to the nuts on the old cylinder. I have printed that guide out just now and will follow it tommorow. The spring that pulls the pedal up is missing on mine also. Thanks again bet thats the problem I presume this can be done without taking the pedal assembly out again? Les I'd the last 50mm of travel has some pressure on it after I'd spent 15 minutes bleeding it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Do the pedal thing, but also if you're still struggling, I'd bleed it to start with from the union of the pipe & master cyl, then from the union on the slave, then finally from the slave bleeder. Is the slave bleeder on the top of the slave - it wasn't on mine - someone had installed it upside down. Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 The spring that pulls the pedal up is missing on mine also the return spring shown in the above diagram hooks onto the pedal arm & the other end should have a small plate that is fitted as a washer under one of the upper 2 bolts heads. items 10 & 11 on diagram below. clutch pedal spring 569701 240708 anchor washer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oap Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 the return spring shown in the above diagram hooks onto the pedal arm & the other end should have a small plate that is fitted as a washer under one of the upper 2 bolts heads. items 10 & 11 on diagram below. clutch pedal spring 569701 240708 anchor washer I,ll be down at the scrap yard Monday spending more money then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101sean Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Just done a reply about bleeding the clutch over on boards.ie as well. I can never bled them fully, just enough to get gears to engage, rest works it way out over time. This assumes you've go the pedal set as Les and Western say. The missing spring won't affect the bleeding but needs to be in place otherwise yuo're just relying on the internal spring in the cylinder. If you still have problems, pm me with your mobile, I'm not too far away and may be in Limerick next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oap Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Just done a reply about bleeding the clutch over on boards.ie as well. I can never bled them fully, just enough to get gears to engage, rest works it way out over time. This assumes you've go the pedal set as Les and Western say. The missing spring won't affect the bleeding but needs to be in place otherwise yuo're just relying on the internal spring in the cylinder. If you still have problems, pm me with your mobile, I'm not too far away and may be in Limerick next week. Cheers Sean I'll give it another go tommorow and pm sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 ^^^^^ What Sean said, I can only ever get it part bled. The rest makes it's way out over a couple of days after. It was even the same on my Focus ! Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 on my Focus Snigger Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oap Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Job done it was just a matter of adjusting the push rod and pedal travel as Westeren said. Thank God thats finished and thank you for all the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Adjusting the pushrod is a fiddly job, happy to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101sean Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Glad you got it sorted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diver110 Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Future bleeding tip; Unbolt the slave cylinder from the bell housing so the rod is fully extended(crack the bleed nipple first and close it finger tight) Once off open the bleed nipple and simply let the fluid gravity feed through (keep reservoir topped up)and you will get 100% of the air out. When you close the bleed nipple don't top up the reservoir again until after you have put the slave cylinder back on as whilst you put it on it will push the rod and then fluid back into the reservoir. If you have fitted a new master cylinder you may need to hold the pedal down for a minuit to get the fluid flowing through the master cylinder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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