dj_wymo Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Hi all Great forum - first post on here so be gentle I am in the process of building an off road rangie classic which will be trailered everywhere - off road use only. The time has come for me to purchase the wheels/tyres and I have been recommended the Insa Turbo Special Tracks. The suspension has been lifted 2" with larger springs, and a further 2" with spacers. The question is what size tyres do I need? I am wanting to fit them to the original 16" alloys. One firm has suggested that 235x85x16 is the size I need, which will only require only a minor modification aka "Camel Cut" to the rear arches. I dont mind doing this, but I dont want to be creating a load of work, having to modify the arches heavily if I can get away with a slightly smaller tyre. Can anyone back this up? I have spoken to another firm who have said that the max they suggest is a 235x70x16. What tyre combos are you chaps running - and was any modification required? Bear in mind that the vehicle will only be used for the track, so could be quite articulated at times. Thoughts much appreciated! I am hoping to take it to KORC this month for its first outing Thanks Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 I'm running 265/75/16 on my original ranger rover alloys. Insa turbo special tracks in my opinion are the Tyres to go for. They rub a little when offroading when articulation is a lot. I've only taking a slight cut from the front wings to help so it's not a great amount of work with the old angle grinder:) Hope that's of some help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 You have a 4" lift? What are you trying to achieve? To get big tyres on a classic (and 235/85 is not big) you will need to trim the arches, even to get 235/85 you will need to trim the front bumper and arch, probably the back of the front arch so they don't catch when turning.... 235/85 on a 4" lift IMO will look a bit daft. I'm on a 2" lift on 33" and the tyres are a nice snug fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelM Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Hi, I have a set of ex army 235/85R16 Michelin XZL on my RRC with a 2" lift and they do not rub. The taller thin tyre works well and gets me where I need to go but it doesn't air down well for soft sand as the sidewalls are too stiff. I also got some superb 9.00x16 Michelin XCL on 6.5 in 1 Tonne rims for mu ex MoD S111 109. All from a firm called L.V.Vass - http://www.vass.co.uk/tyres.asp who are an ex MoD specialist and very good too. Cheers NigelM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticbadger Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 I was running 37" tyres on a 6 inch lift (4" suspension, 2" body lift), something like 235/85/16 is going to look weedy with a 4" lift. From what you are saying (all offroad use) I'd go for a 33" diameter tyre like 285/75/16 and just cut the arches. Either just trim them back or fit any of the wheel arch flares that are available. Here's mine on 37" tyres to wet your appetite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_wymo Posted July 13, 2010 Author Share Posted July 13, 2010 Hi Chaps Thanks for the replies. I initially bought a 2" lift kit in the form of spacers under the springs & shockdroppers. It wasnt until I fitted these that I realised the springs were real tired and it still did not give me much of a lift! I have since purchased some +2" springs and shockers to match, which I am fitting shortly. If I find that it looks daft with both, I will simply remove the spacers under the springs. I am not overly bothered whether or not they look "beefy" enough. I just want a decent tyre which is good value for money (Insa Turbo) to fit my OEM 16" Rangie alloys, that will fit with minor modification. I am only just getting into the game, will be trailering it to KORC every other month for a bit of fun. I'll never be doing comps or anything like that. cheers Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 On standard alloys your turning circle will be worse than an oil tanker. Much better off getting some steel modulars - better offset and more robust when off roading - alloys are fragile 'ickle things don't you know!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic-al Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Hi, I go to KORC most months so if you see me come say hi. I have a classic on +2" bearmach soft springs with +2" shocks and brake hoses. The tyres are the 265 insas on modulars but i wish i'd gone 235 as you can't get full lock with the 265s Im not a fan of alloys and modulars with tyres arn't that much more expensive. Got mine from paddocks and sold my old, rough, alloys on ebay £40. When you add the tyre fitting charge for putting your new tyres on your old alloys its suprising how little your saving. I didn't extend the bump stops as wheres the fun in that and a fair bit of trimming was needed on the front bumper, front arches, rear arches and rear doors. Easy to do and I used panel edge strip to cover the sharp edges and some special silicone to fill the gap in the door. No point spending lots on arches and trim when its play only in my opinion. I also made some cones for the rear springs as they would sometimes pop out on full flex. Hope this is useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meathumper Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Ive got a 4" spring lift, and a 2" body. With 305/75/16 grizzly claws on deep eight spokes. I did have insa turbos special track on standard alloys, i needed to adjust the steering lock as they catch on the radius arms due to the standard offset wheels. They were fantastic in mud but not to good on rock. But good for what you pay for them. If you put 265 insas or bigger on you will need to cut your arches there is a good guide in the tech archive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggie Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 235/85/16 are the size most people fit for some off road fun these days & like people have said get them on some modulars wheels instead of the alloys to retain steering lock. Can anyone back this up? I have spoken to another firm who have said that the max they suggest is a 235x70x16. Did you tell this company that you have a 4" suspension lift? I wouldn't even bother with a tyre that small to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Blatant resurrection of an old post, my apologies, but i just wanted to say how much i love that pic. There's something that makes me feel all warm inside when a Rangey does the "dog with a paw in the air" articulation trick. Fantastic stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Range Rover Blues Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 235/85 will fit on a RRC with only a modest lift without rubbing other than on full lock. You only need a "camelcut" on a Disco. If people called it "range rover cut" because that's what the cmale cars had there would be less confusion. If you have any problems with the back end of the front wing or just want to stop mud being clung up the windows then cut the front wing stay from the footwell, it also help on the front of the sill trim and pull the bttomof the wing out, then make a new stay. A standard wing will deflect a good couple of inches no bother. With a big lift and big tyres it's worth thinking about a larger offset, to keep the turning circle and make it more stable. IIRC it was ROCCIA arches that make an extended arch kit, I've seen a couple done and the worst bit is the rear door (4 door) because you have to cut the bodywork back and the inner and outer skins separate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic-al Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Is this not the same thing? Needs a locker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Is this not the same thing? Needs a locker Nice cage. Custom made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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