haakon Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Rave says 78Nm. Haynes says 25Nm. Which is the correct value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Defender workshop manual says 25Nm for the lower swivel pin bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haakon Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 Strange. It says 78nm here. It might explain that one of them broke What about the upper pin? Rave says 78nm and Haynes 65nm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Have a look in the tech archive - Les has done a thread on it. This came up recently as well - pretty sure the lower figure Les mentions in the thread is for the bottom bolts and the higher value is for the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 I didn't bother torquing mine, they are just done to what I felt was right. nice and tight but not too tight to risk damaging anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haakon Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 Ok. Thanks a lot for your help. I'm rebuilding my front axle and now I've found that the new swivel pin won't fit into the new swivel bearings. The old swivel pin will fit into new bearing. Should I just use the old one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 What makes are you using? - one value brand in particular is renowned for not fitting particulary well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haakon Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 Any chances it starts with a B and ends with part? I've purchased a swivel kit from paddocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 That would be why the bits don't fit. I used a bearmach kit when I rebuilt my front axle... all went together beautifully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haakon Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 Hmm, I need to recheck tomorrow. But is it ok to reuse the old upper pin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I baught timken bearings and britpart pins when i did my front axle, and the pins wouldnt fit. Sent them back and got bearmach pins instead, which worked perfectly. Using the old pins will be fine so long as they're a snug fit with no play etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Hmm, I need to recheck tomorrow. But is it ok to reuse the old upper pin? if the pin is corrosion free and shows no signs of wear then yes... i learnt the harder way and re-used the lower pin as it looked "ok" with only a slight polished area on them... i was wrong had play in the swivel i couldn't pre load out, so ended up getting some oem lower pins, bearmarch i think, solved the problem straight off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haakon Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 I had two new extra swivel pin in the garage. I tried them both and they were ok Probably not Britpart then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I dont know why the likes of paddocks continue to sell britpart tat - it can only cause them hassle and get them a bad reputation amongst their customers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haakon Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 I normally purchase my parts here locally and it didn't occur to me that this could be a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renault4 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 there's a chart on here somewhere that gives reletive torque values to a variety of bolt sizes and tensile streangths, I'll have a look and post it later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haakon Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 I managed to get the broken bolt out. So now I can start the shims game I tried just putting on the old shims, and that was not enough. The preload was way too much. Or I've done something wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renault4 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 if you renew the pins and bearings then you will need more shims, then, as the pins wear you remove shims, taking up the slack untill there are no more shims and then you stsart all over again (not that you would, unless you do mega miles) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haakon Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 Ok. Just keep on trying then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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