pete300tdi90 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 looking to go up in the world from my 285.75 insa turbo special tracks (which are fab) and I wanted some boggers. but by the time i get beadlocks so i can run the 37's down to a size of 36 for comps and get my front axle internals hardened (already done the back) im out of money. (oh and then the spare set of tyres for road use... ouch thats lots of pennies) Looking at simex insted as i hear they are better on the road than insas as they are not remoulds and offer similar levels of grip (so plenty, but wont snap half shafts/CV by just looking at them, unlike boggers) but come in bigger sizes. 35/11.50 R 15 Extreme Trekker look like the insas (2 tread blocks in middle) 36/12.50 R 16 Extreme Trekker look like this with 3 blocks in the centre a) why have they done this? b) anyone used both to notice a difference on/off road? c)do people think its worth going from 33'' to 36'' tyres/ does what i said make sence? lol finaly.. d) so simex come up under, over or the correct height? thanks for the help guys and girls Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 a) no idea b) Off road, the general concensus is that the 12.50's (with 3 centre blocks) are nothing like as aggressive, and don't dig or self clean, as the tread is not open enough. 35x11.50 or 35x10.50 are both good sizes for the defender. c) the more clearence under the diff the better really... 35's are a good choice though. d) Simex are new tyres rather than remoulds so generally come up about right on the sizes. Just to address one of your other comments - if you are running std LR axles, then you will still break shafts, cv's and diffs with this pattern quite easily, as it s their tendency to grab suddenly that does it.... just my 2p.. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete300tdi90 Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 kk. i didnt think they looked as good. so why do it? hmmmmm also, I know i will snap half shafts n bits, and i know going up in size will increase the likelyhood of this, but they are not 'as' bad as boggers... thanks for your pennies worth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the real muddy90 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 35" simex's come out about 34". Simex have more sideslope stability than boggers. Simex are crossplies & horrible on road. Aren't Insa's radial remould? The 36" tread pattern can be 'modified' to make it better than the 35" pattern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete300tdi90 Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 The 36" tread pattern can be 'modified' to make it better than the 35" pattern I did wonder that... how do you cut some of the centre tread patterns out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B reg 90 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 My 35x11.5x15 simex et2's measured 'just' over 35" on 8" wide rims. Brian Hartley nearly didn't let me compete with them when I got them as they were apparently 1/16" over the 35" rule.... Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 my last set of 35x11.5x15's simex et's on 8j rims measured 33.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyb Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 i was under the impression they made the 3 middle lug pattern for the rocks and sand type terrain where you might not want the dig of the thinner tyres. my simex still nearly measure 35 and they are fairly worn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr whippy Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 what about the silverstone mt-117 extreme challenger are selling them and as they are also made in malyasia like the simex there new tyres not retreads as as devon 4x4 have not got the sole rights to sell them there cheep like the budgie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zim Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 what about the silverstone mt-117 extreme challenger are selling them and as they are also made in malyasia like the simex there new tyres not retreads as as devon 4x4 have not got the sole rights to sell them there cheep like the budgie! Where can you buy these from in the UK please ? i've got a friend after some 35's. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHT Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Where can you buy these from in the UK please ? i've got a friend after some 35's. G flee bay. come from macc area ears motorsport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zim Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 EARS across the road from my brother (audi macc) Cheers G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr whippy Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Where can you buy these from in the UK please ? i've got a friend after some 35's. G challenger 4x4 in aldershot hants sell them i think they have them on e-bay also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsie Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I used to run the 36" simex and they also fitted the notorious club off road 35" tyre guage,even though as Adrian says the 35" is very close to the limit The 35 has a more open pattern but the 36 can be modded with a tyre cutter to improve its center tread although i could never bring myself to attack a £200+ tyre with the cutter Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete300tdi90 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 How do people cut tyres if I was to do this... hot wire i guess, but what tool do ppl find work (if anyone has done it) Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3DPE Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Gordon. If your still looking give me a shout Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zim Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Dan - drop me a message on facebook please Got to be 15" as thats the rims he's got. I fitted 37's to mine today G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLR100 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 How do people cut tyres if I was to do this... hot wire i guess, but what tool do ppl find work (if anyone has done it) Pete You cut them with a tool called a tyre regroover it works on the same priciple as a piece of heated up wire but with propper blades that heat up when pressure is applied, it is a very borring job to do trust me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLineMike Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 or a wood chisel & blowtorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j90 mud Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 or a wood chisel & blowtorch typical rough arse approach mike bear in mind that its illegal to use a recut tyre on the road unless it was made for regroving, like a truck or coach tire. we have cut the tread off on a few tires and it did make a small difference to grip levels, in the same way as airing down the boggers to 6 psi (with beadlocks)helps in soft ground but is no good in rocks and tree stumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete300tdi90 Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 is no good in rocks and tree stumps how do you mean they are no good on rocks and stumps? too soft because they have been cut, or the treat pattern wound be as good. im thought about cutting them as, lets face it, most things in britian are muddy... Beadlockers are also no good for the road, but the amount of miles i do, should be fine (touch wood) as its only to get in/around sites, otherwise its on a trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n.r.g97 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 i cut my dumpers with a chainsaw... much better now, they used to slide alot on severe side slopes whereas now they dont, but you have to be carefull, a guy at the club did it and ruined his tyres... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete300tdi90 Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 i cut my dumpers with a chainsaw... haha, good effort, but might give that a miss, i know what would happen if i tried! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j90 mud Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 i mean , that they can be knocked of the inner rim (if outer beadlocked)and that some times cutting can weaken the tire carcess. to be truthful.you are better leaving the tires as they are and just having fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n.r.g97 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 yeah i will admit we tried it on my old knackered tyres first, then my dadf did them (ex tree surgeon so reasonably skilled with a chainsaw ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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