dollythelw Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Does anyone know of an adaptor kit available? or am I going to be whittling away at a nice bit of oak again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROGUE TROOPER Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 I found a Cozzy V6 on Ebay for £200 and it didn't sell!! That was my problem also, may be time to start making convertion kits!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 I take it the cossie V6 is different from the ford 3.0 essex V6? there used to be a conversion for the essex engine to a series gearbox, but I don't think it is still in production. Might be a good place to start though??? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted July 2, 2006 Author Share Posted July 2, 2006 the essex block and the cossie are different I like the EDIS and HP so theres gonna be a way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 i think the cossie V6 is based on the colonge (sp?) replacement for the essex anyway & im sure ive heard of those in series before. may be worth looking into? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted July 2, 2006 Author Share Posted July 2, 2006 Ive been nosing about Andy "Having acquired a spare adapter plate (between Essex V6 and LR Gearbox), I've now discovered that the Essex and Cologne engines do not share the same bolt pattern on the bellhousing. I had (obviously) been under the impression that they were the same." from a man trying the same thing I'll have a word with a nice man in a low place tomorrow and see what can be magic'd up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Edis is easy to add to any engine so dont let that guide you! Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 true Jon, Im just thinking easy conversion, heapum toys to play with, turbo or bi-turbo is a piece of cake and its a cheap lump with engineering sortof out of the later 20th century I have a lead on a kit is anyone else interested? at the mo (as usual) its a one off for me but it would be handy to tempt the boys by saying there's others interested - so is anyone else interested? Cossie powered challenge or comp safari wagons?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I have come across cossie V6 powered safari wagons, but I'm not sure how they've achieved it! I suspect they used the origional ford box and a remote transfer box. Someone once told me that any ford engine would bolt up to any ford box, but I've no idea how much truth there is in it! If its true then one of the standard V6 adaptors ought to work surely? Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I have it on good authority that the Essex V6 and Cossie V6 do not bolt up the same, this is from someone with an Essex V6 in a hybrid and a cossie V6 (with the correct adapter plate) sat on his workshop floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 Ive got a frient with a ford lump/ford box remote T box so thats doable, but I like keeping it neat and short, unfortunately not every ford will fit every ford box- the stud pattern is different, the flywheels are different as well, I would like a manual so need it to hook up to an R380 as it gives me the ratios Im looking for, the other option would be an MT75 but that would definately end up with a remote T box (on the plus side it would be well up to handling the power though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02GF74 Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Someone once told me that any ford engine would bolt up to any ford box, but I've no idea how much truth there is in it! If its true then one of the standard V6 adaptors ought to work surely? not quite but a lot do; the early 4 speed and later 5 speed (type 9) will mate up to crossflow, pinto and zetec but definietely not duratec. Dunno about the 6 cylinder engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 The other option would be to mate it up to a 'yota box, thats been done.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Zetec Duratec could be a good bet, Practical Performance Car love Zetecs, there's plenty out there, plenty of tweakability and aftermarket goodies and they seem to last pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 Pennies per pony though and a nice bit of torque chucked in, I wouldnt chase too many ponys, just bottom end thump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Cossy is the same as cologne, I think it's also the same as transit as well .These could help. MT75 will be on its limit with the cossy, you'd be better with a T5 or a tremec 'box Rakeway do a conversion for the tremec T56 (6 speed) to an lt230. I wouldn't bother with the r380 or any other landy box for that matter, to damned weak. Cossie BOA is the one to go for 220bhp 297lbft and they safely rev to 7000rpm The G very nearly had one up it when i was in the depths of sump and turbo hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 I knew you had a use Dan - one of these days I know CPE very well, he's a good lad, Rakeway look cool - do ya know how much are those Tremecs?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 dunno if its any help at all but a cologne bolts straight up to a type 9 ford box, from say a pinto engined car. bell housing is a different length, but all the bolts fit. thats despite what my local ford breakers told me when i blew the box in a XR4i i had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 Thanks Andy, might be handy for the front end of the bellhousing but I think the type 9 isnt up to living with a cossie, got a quote for a tremec 500...... not cheap but then 600ft/lbs rating is a bit tasty, low first and 6 speed mmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 but I think the type 9 isnt up to living with a cossie Should be alright with a decent straight cut gearset, if you can live with the noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted July 4, 2006 Author Share Posted July 4, 2006 noise isnt a problem - I can hear a thing in petal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Thanks Andy, might be handy for the front end of the bellhousing but I think the type 9 isnt up to living with a cossie, got a quote for a tremec 500...... not cheap but then 600ft/lbs rating is a bit tasty, low first and 6 speed mmmmmm You'd be able to twin turbo it then You ought to see what some of the germans do with them, i found one that a guy had built one up, it was a 4.3litre ford explorer bottom end, cossie heads with a dirty great blower sat on top, A little over 600 bhp was "all" it could muster. Should be alright with a decent straight cut gearset, if you can live with the noise I think you'd be into telephone numbers to build a type 9 to take 300lbft reliably, nice compact unit though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted July 4, 2006 Author Share Posted July 4, 2006 I saw an Estonian bloke with a 4.3 bottom end grafted in and it looked nice and doable - I think a Tremec would be the way, its not just the grief the motor gives it but the shock loads coming back from the drivetrain... dont go giving me ideas Dan - Ive seen those twin turbo manifolds.......... mmm devorced T case makes it seriously affordable oh this is gonna get soooooo messy.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Shock loads? What, after it's traveled back through the mogs and through the G tranfer case? Turbo's and a supercharger No lag, no problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted July 4, 2006 Author Share Posted July 4, 2006 mogs? pah nice for earth movers antonov 2 speed blower................ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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