Tetsu0san Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Does anyone out there have a 200Tdi (or possibly an older engine) running without the radiator cowling? I have a 200Tdi 90 and the cowling takes up so much space and makes it very difficult to work in the engine bay without removing it first, which is a pain in the arse. I don't appear to have any overheating issues at the moment so would it be OK to remove it from mine? Or should I just live with it and leave it where it is? The reason why I ask is that I have just seen a 200Tdi on ebay with the cowling removed, and it suddenly dawned on me that I have been missing a trick somewhere. Your opinions are welcomed. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Mines been without for the past 6 years, no probs so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Mine has no cowling, but then it also has no viscous fan either. (Electric fitted). Has been that way for 3 years now without issue, vast amounts of space to work in the engine bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 The fan is so far from the radiator that without the cowl I do not think the fan will be effective. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 If you want to do away with the fan cowl, then it's probably wisest to fit an electric fan. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I opted to fit an electric fan (from a ford mondeo), which meant I could remove the cowl without any questions over cooling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyNissanPrairie Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 No fan or cowling on a tweaked 2.5NA for the last 3 years. No probs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Mine has no cowling, but then it also has no viscous fan either. (Electric fitted). Has been that way for 3 years now without issue, vast amounts of space to work stand in the engine bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsu0san Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 You could almost have another storage area in front of the engine! The engine being this far back must be a throwback to the older series Land Rovers, am I right? This also brings me onto another question. Is the engine further forward on a 300Tdi Defender than on a 200Tdi (or TD, NA or earlier)? If so, does that mean that the 300Tdi Defender bell housing is the same as the Disco bell housing? I have pondered this for a while and if I am right that would also explain why short R380 gearboxes are few and far between as they must have been in the transition period between the two engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Short R380s were only used for retrofitting into 200Tdi vehicles, hence why they are so rare as they were only available as an upgrade part. 300Tdis sit a good 6" further forward in the engine bay yes, but I don't know about bellhousings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsu0san Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 Cheers for that information. I have been told that you can take an R380 straight out of a Disco and put this straight into a 300Tdi Defender, which would mean that the bell housing must be the same length, but until actually see someone who has done this I will treat it with a little suspicion. But back to the original question, I was going to fit an electric fan at some point, so perhaps this would be a good time to do so. I know the engines seem to run quite cool and people remove the fans on them all the time, but I was unsure as to the cowling. Gonna give it a go anyway. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I'm fairly sure the shifter housing is in a different position on a Disco R380 compared to a Defender one, even if the bellhousing is the same length. Changing it required a gearbox disassmble/reassemble operation too I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I'm fairly sure the shifter housing is in a different position on a Disco R380 compared to a Defender one, even if the bellhousing is the same length. Changing it required a gearbox disassmble/reassemble operation too I think Yep shifter is located much further back on a Disco box, would end up somewhere in the cubby box on a Defender .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 The following thread, if I'm reading it correctly says the bellhousings are the same though for 300TDI R380 Disco and Defender. http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=7397 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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