tweetyduck Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 if a wheel/hub bearing goes can it take out the stub axle. What does it usually knacker up? Hopefully not the hub iteself I've got a stub axle in my spares kit but they don't come complete. Do i need all the other trimmings, thrust washers, seal and bearing? Is this it all? FTC861 FTC56 FTC840 FTC5268 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanuki Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Worst thing that can happen if a wheel-bearing goes is that the inner track spins on the stub-axle and welds itself on. Dismantling can then be destructive. --Tanuki. One of my lifelong passions has been converting vegetarians back to meat, usually by the judicious application of the aroma of slowly frying bacon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 One of the most cunning methods I've seen is to build up a complete hub (stub, bearings, seals, disc, hub) as a unit and use it as the spare wheel mount on the swing away carrier. Adds a bit of weight but makes any hub/bearing/disc/seal issue a fixed-length job to get you back on the road. Also keeps the bearings & seals out of harm's way compared to rattling round in the back with the spanners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted August 18, 2011 Author Share Posted August 18, 2011 That sounds like a step to far even for me. I have spare bearings, seals, lock washers and nuts and stuff for the actual hub. Do you think a complete stub is a good thing to take. Its not very big and i already have it albeit it has parts missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somethingwitty Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 That sounds like a step to far even for me. I have spare bearings, seals, lock washers and nuts and stuff for the actual hub. Do you think a complete stub is a good thing to take. Its not very big and i already have it albeit it has parts missing. I take it you're off on some overlanding type stuff?? Not done one myself, however I probably would take a spare stub depending on where I'm going - there's not much that will stop you but being on 3 wheels might! It's rare that they are that bad you couldnt limp somewhere on a worn one, but by the time you find the seal seat is erroded by sand etc etc... depends on availability where your going and hazard if it goes. Sahara - Yes, Europe / Iceland - proably wouldnt bother; it's true to say the more you carry, the more likely something WILL break due to the overloading! The best defence is a well maintained vehicle in the first place - you should then notice the nasty stuff before it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted August 18, 2011 Author Share Posted August 18, 2011 yes, very soon. Off for a long while. The vehicle is very well mainained. Its pratically new build. Its not overloaded and will not be. Full gear is 2.68 Tonne although i now have 40litres more tank capacity and probably another 20 water so ~80kg more than that. Plus i've put on a bit of weight.... So i hope i don't loose a stub axle but it looks like one in the kit is the right move. Anyone comment on the parts to make a complete one up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovernut Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 yes, very soon. Off for a long while. The vehicle is very well mainained. Its pratically new build. Its not overloaded and will not be. Full gear is 2.68 Tonne although i now have 40litres more tank capacity and probably another 20 water so ~80kg more than that. Plus i've put on a bit of weight.... So i hope i don't loose a stub axle but it looks like one in the kit is the right move. Anyone comment on the parts to make a complete one up? Had a front bearing sieze and weld the inner race to the stub shaft. The worst of it was the sudden stopping of the front n/s wheel when it siezed, pulled the 110 so suddenly to the left that it pulled the steering wheel out of my grip. Fortunately I wasn't going too fast at the time. Got a hub nut spanner ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted August 18, 2011 Author Share Posted August 18, 2011 I have the standard box spanner and a proper socket to torque the nuts up correctly. I nearly have enough stuff to manufacture a new hub nut spanner should the other two fail I'm actully taking another vehicle just in case we need one,,,, but seriously if you can think of it, i already have one. Possibly two and sometimes five. I forget how many wheel bearings i have but its not two. I have 5 brake caliper bolts ??? the only thing i don't have that i might need is a bottom radiator pipe (why did i bin the old one) But mines a new genuine one and its been on about 8k miles. So unless it gets ripped out by a monkey i shouldn't need one. ( naysayers ?,,,,anyone ??? surely someone can find something i don;t have that i should have with me ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disty Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Neill do you have a leaving date yet? I think your vehicle will do well- Have you done much research about getting parts abroad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 The main way to ensure a good adventure is to make regular checks (daily before you start) for faults , jacking each wheel off the ground to check for freeplay/bearing noise once a week will give you plenty of warning of impending doom If you end up stuck in the gloop or in a river then a bit of an overhaul afterwards wouldn't hurt ..but I'm sure you've already got all that sorted out . At a push chemical metal or even araldite can be used to re-face oil seal track. I once used a high lift jack as a slide hammer to pull a siezed hub off a Disco for someone in Poland. Luckily the back inner race came off with a 4 1/2" grinder at the local metalworkers cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted August 18, 2011 Author Share Posted August 18, 2011 Just applying for the first essential visa tomorrow. Carnet paperwork went today so i'd say in about 7 or 8 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailysleaze Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 if a wheel/hub bearing goes can it take out the stub axle. What does it usually knacker up? Hopefully not the hub iteself This exact thing happened to me and to a similar extent on a different occasion here: link If a bearing melts it'll take out everything near it; stub axle, hub, cv joint. Daily bearing checks will go a long way to help keep on top of it. Proper greasing and attention would have stopped happening what happpened to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somethingwitty Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 In light of the above experiences I think I shall ammend my idea and take a spare stub and bearings anytime I leave the UK!! I think I'd be tempted to take a spare bottom hose - let's face it, weighs c*ck all but you could be extremely glad! I wouldn't fancy trying to bodge, esp if it were a 300. Have you had sight of 'The Vehicle Dependent Expedition Guide' by Tom Sheppard? I expect you're pretty much sorted, however I suspect there's still much of use in it even at this lateish stage. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Just found a piccy of what I was talking about: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted August 21, 2011 Author Share Posted August 21, 2011 @Fridge. Thats pretty ingenious and no space wasted in fact space used in a more efficient way. @Jim yeah got the book for Xmas and i might indeed get a bottom hose. I wish i'd not lobbed the old one but i had to have a clear out last year so it went in the bin. I'm going to strip and re do all the hubs before we set off. Fill em with JCB blue and they should last a good deal longer. They got done before the shakedown so are about 8K from last time so i'd say its a good a time as any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevorevans Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Yes as the guys have said a knackerd wheel bearing can wreck the stub axle as I myself found out, twice in just one week!. Good luck with the trip and the swing away idea looks great and practical too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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