Landy-Novice Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 hello all, as im going to fit a huuuuge intercooler, i need a big surface area yet skinny radiator to make room and because mine is bust. in comes the td5 rad, cheap and easily obtainable but im struggling to find anything about the oil cooler, will i have to fit a separate oil cooler? if so what to go for and whats the thread size i need? or is there a way around this? :blink: thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Td5s have a water-to-oil cooler bolted to the front of the block I believe, so there is no oil cooler in the radiator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yep, Oil cooler is a little cylidrical thing bolted to the block & isn't part of the rad in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 so by what you two are saying, im going to have to fit a aftermarket one somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I've fitted a TDi rad and Td5 intercooler, and it's easy enough. Just modify the mounting frame slightly (drill new holes for the rad mounts) and put the radiator in the middle rather than at the side, and then fit the TD5 intercooler in front with inlet/outlet either side of the rad - you just need to trim a little metal away from the outside edge of the mounting frame so the intercooler pipes don't foul. you'll need to modify the radiator pipes a little, biggest problem is running an intercooler hose back across the engine bay to the nearside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 dont worry about the inter cooler. im fitting one of these which i no will require butchering the frame and inner wings but thats fine. what problems will i have with the hoses? do they have different ID's?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 completely misread your post sorry - trying to watch England game at same time if you just need to get an oil cooler there are plenty of aftermarket ones available pretty cheaply - presume you have a tdi? cant remember thread size but I'm sure a search on here will pull up the details pretty quickly though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Anything is possible if you put your mind to it. Don't autos have a long thin oil cooler across the front panel? My TDi oil cooler is a vauxhall callibra gearbox oil cooler, hose fittings are 1/2"BSP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Having owned a Td5 I can't see how the oil cooler could be that effective, it's tiny. I would imagine anything would be sufficent to replace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 trying to watch England game at same time im so sorry to hear that! ejparrot, they do but i believe they are 12mm threads, and apparently i need 1/2bsp. and cheers stuck, that means i should be fine with something like this. i can get some extension pipes made up by THWhites. so thats the oil cooler all sorted just the radiator. anyone got the dimensions of a td5 rad? and what size are the pipes? will i need some sort of adapter thingy or is it a straight swop over? . :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 That looks more than sufficent. Fitting the Td5 rad, that oil cooler & intercooler might be a bit of a head scratcher but if you can do a bit of fabrication work (without Blu-Tack) I'm sure you will make it all fit. I can't give you any dimensions I'm afraid, I took the Td5 out & fitted a 4.6 V8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 Fitting the Td5 rad, that oil cooler & intercooler might be a bit of a head scratcher but if you can do a bit of fabrication work (without Blu-Tack) I'm sure you will make it all fit. :hysterical: i dont want to have to fit a td5 rad, but mines bust and are expensive to replace and im not sure if a standard 300tdi rad is up for the job of a tweek engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Should be, they use them for the 2.8TGV don't they? not to mention that the tdi's ar overcooled anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 A Tdi rad is easily up to the job of handling a tweaked TDi. I have one cooling my very tweaked 2.8 Isuzu and it runs too cool if anything. I had a TD5 rad/intercooler fitted in my Rangie for a while. The rad fits in nicely width wise, but they are a bit taller than a TDi rad - should be ok in a Defender but caught the bonnet on my Rangie. Quite easy to install the rad as you only need to make some simple brackets to hang it on. I had problems fitting an expansion tank and binned it in the end, due to the port layout on the TD5 rad, but I was plumbing it into a different car with Isuzu engine so won't go into it, but check you can plumb a tank in before you do too much work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 :hysterical: i dont want to have to fit a td5 rad, but mines bust and are expensive to replace and im not sure if a standard 300tdi rad is up for the job of a tweek engine. Have a read here: http://forums.lr4x4....showtopic=71503 M&D do an uprated one the same size as standard. The core is a Caterpillar core ans is deeper than the original. Should be more than capable of cooling a tweaked engine. 300tdi rads are off the shelf, 200tdi ones require your old tanks to be sent to them. The beauty of doing this is that you get to keep brass side tanks instead of the plastic carp that passes for 'quality' stuff these days! The 300tdi rad in its standard form will probably be fine for what you want but when i change my 200tdi rad, it will be with one from MD as above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy V8 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I thought you said you were fitting a huge intercooler.I squeezed an uprated RS500 cooler in between the front end of my 110.I just centralized the rad in the frame .easy job really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrovernuts Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 An old TD rad is thinner than aTDi, but full width and comes with an inbuilt oil cooler. Not sure if it will give you the space you want, but easy to fit and cheap to buy. Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 An old TD rad is thinner than aTDi, but full width and comes with an inbuilt oil cooler. Not sure if it will give you the space you want, but easy to fit and cheap to buy. Toby You are right.... it was suggested on a previous thread, as was centering a standard rad.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 well, we will have to see! anyway, im the (i think) proud owner of a huge inter cooler. lets see how easy it is to fit! thanks all (and i maybe back with some IC installation pictures. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 hello all. ok so IC all fitted but.. i have problem with rad bottom hose. so can i run a heavy duty rad with out the standard fan with overheating issues??. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 300's usually stay cool. What I'm doing with The 109 is gradually increasing its journeys and working it harder and harder, until I get to a point where I think its getting too hot, and then I'll fit a fan if its needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.