andy2986 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Hiya guy's Ive had a trawl through the forum and cannot quite find the answer Im looking for. I am putting a replacement chassis on my Disco. The old chassis was split from the rear tank area through to the front engine mounts !! I have bought a good second hand chassis from a reputable breakers in Essex with no log book ( i have a receipt for it ) The replacement chassis was from a P reg Disco and my disco is P reg also. nothing is being modified in any way, all the axles, engine, gearbox etc are being removed from my disco, refurbished then being fitted to my "new" chassis then I will swap the body over. my old chassis will be cut up for scrap but I will cut out the old Chassis no to keep. I have a complete photo diary of the whole process. do I tell the DVLA ? or do I put my old chassis number on my "new" chassis? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I'm afraid you can't do that. To keep your reg the chassis needs to be original unaltered or a brand new version of the original spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy2986 Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 Do I have any options ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Not using a second hand chassis. I believe Richards Chassis now make disco chassis, but that is likely to hurt your wallet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 these links should set you in the right & legal direction https://www.gov.uk/v...rs-and-rebuilds https://www.gov.uk/v...fication-number https://www.gov.uk/v...tration-numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy2986 Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 Cheers for that, I will read it more thoroughly tomorrow. I've got to Say it does tiddle me off a little, I'm not trying to do anything wrong or ileagle here, just change old rusty metal for non rusty metal.. Ah well, Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 easiest way is a new chassis then as it's a like for like it takes on the existing chassis & reg numbe & old original should be destoyed but keeping the bit with VIN stamped on, but with a chassis from another vehicle, although it's exactly the same it has a totally different VIN identity, it's all to do with preventing crime prevention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy2986 Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 Ha ! The swear filter does make me laugh !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy2986 Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 yeah I get it now Ralph, I wish I had done a little more research before hand, my fault, my restoration just started as a "simple" boot floor job and kind of grew.. The replacement second hand chassis was a great idea at the time. Ive spent a fortune with Simon at X-Eng and Andrew at QT services ready for when it's all fixed, should have saved my money and just bought a new chassis at Richards I guess...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 how are they going to know if you grind off the old VIN and replace with yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 how are they going to know if you grind off the old VIN and replace with yours? The same way they can tell if you do it to one you stole. You are unlikely to get stamps that match the original land rover ones, there will be evidence of grinding marks unless you are really good, also there is a weld pretty close to the vin number that will probably get hit by the grinder .... then you will be in trouble. Why will they look? Roadside check, accident....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The same way they can tell if you do it to one you stole. You are unlikely to get stamps that match the original land rover ones, there will be evidence of grinding marks unless you are really good, also there is a weld pretty close to the vin number that will probably get hit by the grinder .... then you will be in trouble. Why will they look? Roadside check, accident....... fair point! cut the VIN out and replace with new metal and stamp your VIN on that and say that the tin worm had infested... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Fairly certain most tricks you come up with will at some point have been tried by those who ring vehicles and will no doubt have been seen by vehicle inspectors to. You could use a section of the 'new' chassis to replace the rotten section of the original chassis, at which point does that become illegal? i.e 50% 75% 99%??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy2986 Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 Fairly certain most tricks you come up with will at some point have been tried by those who ring vehicles and will no doubt have been seen by vehicle inspectors to. You could use a section of the 'new' chassis to replace the rotten section of the original chassis, at which point does that become illegal? i.e 50% 75% 99%??? Ive had a bit of a poke around on this and other forums, as far as I can find out there isn't a percentage when the repair sections are bigger than the original and therefore illegal, YRM do some fantastic chassis repair sections and there is a metal suppliers near me that have folded up some 3mm steel for this project as well. Its just that a chassis is more than the box outside there are all these fillets/gussets inside the chassis that must be part of the structural integrity of the whole thing. it became obvious (to me) that for safeties sake it was better to replace the whole thing. Incidentally, I noticed that on the axles after they were taken off, wire brushed to within an inch of their life then krusted, that there is still a serial number that can still be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Idris Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I don't know about safety? If you patch work it, then it is weaker, but on my van the thin chassis bottom (with spot welded brace strip in the bottom of the chassis rail) was replaced with 2mm strip. If you put 3mm strip top and bottom would it really be anything but stronger than OE? I wonder what would happen if you used the other chassis and cut the number out and replaced it with a blank plate? Is having no number a crime? (Technically still naughty, but leaves no proof of anything) Either way up my race truck is a shortened RRC. Its a right set of patches, plates and stress and it has survived a right kicking for 15 years. Maybe we get too precous about these things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 My 88 has no original number - the dumb irons were replaced many moons ago, there's been no comment made about it by the MoT man, or the post-accident investigators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey1000 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 these links should set you in the right & legal directionhttps://www.gov.uk/v...rs-and-rebuilds https://www.gov.uk/v...fication-number https://www.gov.uk/v...tration-numbers I heard about an engineer who had recycled his tax-exempt Ford Escort with a kit car kit. The engine and all the running gear was as made by Uncle Henry. Even the number plates were recycled and the bloke described the car as a Ford Escort. All was OK for several years but eventually a stroppy MOT tester upset the apple cart. AFAIK the vehicle had to be VOSA checked and re-registered and road tax had to be paid! I believe that it all depends on whether the car had a chassis. In the 1960s a lot of cars did have a chassis so putting a fibreglass sports body on a sit-up-and-beg Ford Popular was allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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