dollythelw Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 The trials of the new style motorways are going well, government hopes to adopt this type of layout in an effort to convince us to leave our cars at home New Style M4 Test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Ah the Yungas road (AKA Death road), the most dangerous road on earth, apparently it's a good blast on a mountain bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red90 driver Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Ah! Would that be the proposed route for the new high speed M4 Tollroad for the M25 area carpark? Faster and safer than the existing network. But 'gas guzzling 4x4's' will be charged a greater amount or just banned on environmental grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjojjas Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 following some of the links from that page gets you these... http://aistigave.hit.bg/Logistics/ some good ones there.... Jas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 looks like the Karachi to Kabul road! but not as busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 That's very scary, but If that road were in Vietnam, there would always be some idiots wanting to overtake, without considering or even caring if there was another vehicle coming in the opposite direction. Life is very cheap in developing third world countries. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoSS Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 That's very scary, but If that road were in Vietnam, there would always be some idiots wanting to overtake, without considering or even caring if there was another vehicle coming in the opposite direction. Life is very cheap in developing third world countries.Bill. That's the problem with hinduism/buddism, it doesn't matter if you die, you will just come back again as something else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hi all, Here's another gem: the Moscow - Irkutsk motorway called Lena. And no, this is not a joke! A few days after these pictures were taken about six hunderd cars were stuck there for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Yet some of us pay good money to drive in conditions like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 That's the problem with hinduism/buddism, it doesn't matter if you die, you will just come back again as something else! Life is cheap, but labor is cheaper still in those countries. For very little money and little disruption to traffic flow, they could employ hundreds of poor people to widen that Yungas road with handtools,and many like it around the world. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS26 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Life is cheap, but labor is cheaper still in those countries. For very little money and little disruption to traffic flow, they could employ hundreds of poor people to widen that Yungas road with handtools,and many like it around the world.Bill. 30 years ago I traveled (by bus) on a similar looking road (mostly 3 metres wide but with passing places on the straighter bits) in the Himalayas, I think it went on like that for about 10 miles - it was so dangerous that the bus driver wouldn't proceed until everybody (including me) had been blessed by some kind of a holy man in a small temple by the roadside... Big sections were one way with the direction reversing at certain times. Imagine the fun there was when we met a truck coming the other way! Apparently there had been a landslide which had blocked the road so he had turned round. Goodness knows how! We walked past the landslide (frighteningly exposed even for us climbers) and caught the bus on the other side – even swapping tickets with the passengers coming the other way. Now for the science bit: The road I traveled was blasted into solid rock, and the only way to widen it would be to cut further into the (about 60 degree?) slope - so that for every metre length of road: If we assume it's 3m wide, the original blasting would have removed 9 cubic metres of rock (BTW this was thrown into the valley. I was told that building the road was a massive undertaking that took the army 2 years and all that rock tumbling down the slope really upset the people who live below...) If they widen it by another three metres - that’s an additional 27 cubic metres of rock per metre length of road.. Big job for had tools methinks… but then – the Pyramids were built that way so… I’ll get me coat Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snailracer Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 And I thought the Moscow - Irkutsk road was bad in the summer! Snailracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Big job for had tools methinks… but then – the Pyramids were built that way so… I’ll get me coat Roger To us in the developed west ,widening and deepening a river would seem impractical without dredging machinary. But in Hanoi Vietnam during 2001/2002 I watched as many workers with hand tools, bamboo poles and canvas tarps, dammed off half the width of a major river for a length of over 1 kilometre, then dug out the other half with spades and shovels and carried away the spoil by hand in what looked like Pith helmets. Not a wheel barrow to be seen anywhere. when one half was done they diverted the flow to that side and started again on the other half. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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