De Ranged Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Gidday I've hit a problem fitting disco steering into my SII and can't seem to find a local option to view... was hoping someone has some photos of steering box mounted on the chassis... if possible some one able to give me some measurements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I know you are going coils, but the P38 box on the outside of the rail is popular over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 if i could do that I'd use the 60 series box I have on the shelf lol.... problem is to clear the coils I have to move it forward enough it conflicts with the radiator.... the disco by dropping inside the chassis only needs to go forward enough for the vertical shaft to clear the diff housing, depending on angle it does have an issue due to a bulge in the lower part of the box think it could be a power assist ram My problem is at the moment there isn't room to fit it with the draglink parallel... to give it room, looking down from above (plan view) to fit the pitman arm sticks forward by almost 2", part of this is due to rolling the axle due to the steeper angle of the radius arms, but this is only a few mm of forward movement .... I am still left with a draglink that is very noticeably not in line and due to limited time in the shed I didn't take the time to measure up before I removed all the bits off the disco chassis lol so I'm left scratching my head if landrover designed it this way lol So I'd like some measures and angles the angle off level for the bump stop flats on the axle (this gives me a base line to rotate the swivel housings when I sort caster, I will be adding more caster than factory... with 35" tyres 4-5 degrees works best) the angle off level for the pitman arm looking in from the guard (steering arm on the steering box, this is one, will help sort the clearance issue) a picture of the steering box and chassis with the axle so I can see how they all relate and an attempt at a measure of distance from the axle tube to the draglink, if possible done in plan view (this will definitely show up what landrover has done) Asked around the local clubs with no luck.... there isn't even one for sale locally I can go for a test ride in and measure lol Untill I can find the answers I've moved onto the body.... started the outriggers for the bulkhead and sliders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Does it matter if it's off a Lefty? I could do some snaps tomorrow for ya if it helps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Not disco but here is some pics of my ibex (disco front axle and defender steering box) Sorry for out of focus lens fogged up and I didn't notice. All defender and disco axle/steering box positions are the same relative to each other it's only the radiator, engine and amount of chassis in front that changes. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 thanks Mike, blury still shows what i need.... even without your draglink i can see from the panhard that your draglink will angle forward... as for the box I'll put money on it thats the same as the disco it looks identical the pitman arm is alot more drop than the disco.... mines near flat, is that a standard defender as it would be alot better than the flat one I have any chance you have an angle/level gauge and you could give me some angles Yes please Nige it will still show the same geometry.... it will just confirm, as Mikes is as much a mix as mine lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 4 bolt Defender/disco steering boxes are identical except the drop(Pittman) arm. I can use either drop arm it makes very little difference in fact most people over here swap the defender set up to disco as it deletes the God awful drop arm ball joint in favour of a track rod end. Yes mine is standard defender sorry no accurate way of measuring the angle. Ironically I've got a 90 with the disco drop arm set up but it's a bit dark for photos (the ibex photos were taken a while ago). Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Not sure how much help any of these will be but here are any pics I already have uploaded which show the steering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Thank you guys what you've posted has helped me solve the problem.... depending on how physically capable I am in the next couple of days, have agree'd to help a mate by topping a hedge.... taking 6m off the top of a 20m hedge lol and i don't think the body is really up for it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 At 20m tall isn't it a row of trees rather than a hedge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 At 20m tall isn't it a row of trees rather than a hedge It's not at all uncommon in New Zealand for a hedge, planted around a farmyard maybe a hundred years ago, to get that tall. Usually Cupressus macrocarpa. GREAT for firewood! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 I survived lol enjoyed it, good fun to do a bit every now and then, keep the skills up... but have to admit the fitness isn't there any longer, I'm going to sleep well tonight Would guess 16 to 20 yr old, mac's, some of them I was taking almost 10m out of the top.... this sort of thing is common enough especially with lifestylers lol they plant trees with out thinking about the care they need, this case was on a boundary, steep conditions behind a house with no way to get a hedge trimmer along... got a heap more work out there for them... Ash gum that over hangs the house and more macs and gums on the boundary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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