cypermethrin Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 OK so the saga continues having had a new clutch fitted in the 300Tdi 90 - It seems as though the usual configuration of the transfer box is messed up. This is what I believe should be happening:- On the transfer box to the right-hand side of the "H"H = top right = High range which gives you your normal gears perferct for normal drivingL = bottom right = Low range is forward and to the right(straight forward from high range) (And to the left of the "H" is the above but with the diff-lock engaged). However it now seems that the H and L have been transposed - so I get normal drive and speeds whilst in "L" and changing to "H" engages the low ratios and assoicated low speeds. Now clearly the garage are a bunch of numpties and should have checked all of this etc....... but is this a simple fix as I am reluctant to take it to them without knowing the "cure" ! Thanks again for your help - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco-Ron Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I can't imagine how they have done that. .. The mechanism won't work back to front. ... The knob doesn't need rotating 180 degrees does it? ?...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco-Ron Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Btw. Do you know that it's not an h pattern. .. but a figure 8.... you don't have to go to neutral to engage the difflock. You can just slide it sideways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypermethrin Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 The knob is indeed on the correctway around. I know it sounds crazy but the truck wizzes around perfect road speeds in "L" and move it to "H" its all slow and high revving. Utterly bizarre. And moving the lever to the left illuminates the diff light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypermethrin Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Btw. Do you know that it's not an h pattern. .. but a figure 8.... you don't have to go to neutral to engage the difflock. You can just slide it sideways So it could be the linkages are not setup correctly to reflect the "8" ? All they did was chnage the clutch and not do anything with the transfer box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Sound's as if the crank has been removed from the difflock lever mechanism and then put back 180degrees out...but I didn't think that was possible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Early90 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 L is forwards, H is back. you are saying the knob shows H top right? Sounds like the box is correct and the knob tells lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypermethrin Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 I have just been out in the truck to confirm I am not going mad and can report as follows The transfer lever knob is definately on the right way ! All 6 postions on the '8' are selectable as normal The diff light comes on when lever is pushed to left hand side and off to right hand side Normal road speeds and gearing can only be achieved by placing lever into 'L' (i.e., top right hand side) Moving into 'H' (i.e., bottom right hand side) engages low ratios and asdociated low speed and high revs Before it went into the garage it was definately working correctly with 'H' used for road speeds I am completely at a loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertspark Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I think that you can put the crank on the other way around (yellow bit in this linked photo) http://www.defendersource.com/forum/f10/lt230-locking-linkage-needed-12402.html I'll check tonight but I'm sure it's flat on both sides of the bolt locking shoulder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I think that you can put the crank on the other way around (yellow bit in this linked photo) http://www.defendersource.com/forum/f10/lt230-locking-linkage-needed-12402.html I'll check tonight but I'm sure it's flat on both sides of the bolt locking shoulder Your link is the diff lock linkage, not the ratio linkage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 wondering if item 8 in http://lrcat.com/#31/4/53750 is fitted correctly [high to low change lever] extract from photo of my R380/LT230 transfer lever linkage, note the clinch bolt of hi/low lever is forward when in high range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 See attached. It may be possible that they installed the upper piece (item 265) upside down making it shift backwards. Adjustment is shown clearly in the workshop manual. The high/low shift parts are in green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypermethrin Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 See attached. It may be possible that they installed the upper piece (item 265) upside down making it shift backwards. Adjustment is shown clearly in the workshop manual. The how/low shift parts are in green. Untitled.png I think you may be onto something there Red90 - many thanks for your help and counsel.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Early90 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 That has to be it, it is the only thing that can reverse the operation of the lever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Whatever they have done, it is their problem, take it back and let them put it right. Next time, try somewhere more competent! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypermethrin Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Whatever they have done, it is their problem, take it back and let them put it right. Next time, try somewhere more competent! Chris I agree 100 percent - sadly they used to be good and I trusted them. That ship has sailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 That's the lever I was refering to. I didn't think it would fit upside down under the transmission tunnel, but maybe it does. That's where you problem lies I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneandtwo Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 You also should be asking why the transfer box has been fiddled with to change the clutch. You don't need to go anywhere near it, it is far easier (and cheaper, time wise) to just lift the engine forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I agree 100 percent - sadly they used to be good and I trusted them. That ship has sailed. IMO.... I would never take my vehicle back to a mechanic that has been shown to be incompetent. It is not worth the worry about what else they might damage. Chock it up to a lesson learned and find a mechanic that is known to be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 You also should be asking why the transfer box has been fiddled with to change the clutch. You don't need to go anywhere near it, it is far easier (and cheaper, time wise) to just lift the engine forwards. Most mechanics pull the gearbox back. If you have a lift it is a bit faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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