pigster Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Hi all, I am looking buying a 110, what are the differences between the new and old style td5 defender 110's that I need to look out for please I know the dash face changes at some point (2002 I think approx) but why and what else please? is it easy to upgrade to the new style with geniun bits etc like the electrics behind it. whats the pitfalls of old v new? any help would be much appreciated. regards Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanger Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Hi all, I am looking buying a 110, what are the differences between the new and old style td5 defender 110's that I need to look out for please I know the dash face changes at some point (2002 I think approx) but why and what else please? is it easy to upgrade to the new style with geniun bits etc like the electrics behind it. whats the pitfalls of old v new? any help would be much appreciated. regards Rich The face lift model has metal dowels in the head rather than plastic, different cam and ECU. Is called a 15 or 16p engine. The rest of the vehicle is the same, rusty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Post 02ish is rover rear axle that's good or bad depending on your point of view. I've heard 15p is better. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The later have a different rear door, all steel rather than the earlier steel/ali type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The 15p engine fixed a lot of the recurring problems of the earlier engines including... A slightly different cylinder head design with metal rather than plastic locating pegs Different injectors A different fuel pressure regulator and fuel rail return external to the cylinder head (early ones had the fuel return internally and it caused issues with cracking). The ECU was changed to a reprogrammable version that seems to be more robust. The emissions were lowered to meet Euro 3 standards (including new EGR design and control). The throttle potentiometer was changed from two track to three track, presumably for safety. A redesigned coolant system and fuel cooler to include EGR cooling. In short, if you have the choice, choose one with a 15p engine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigster Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 so a few bits, I assume a lot of issues would of been solved by now though right? on a 2000 model for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneandtwo Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 My parents wanted to replace their 300tdi 90 with a newer model, I went for as new a td5 as I could get for them, a 56 plate, as I figured they should've ironed out pretty much all the snags by then. Being so late, as well as the better steel rear door, it also has "puma" front doors as well which are well worth having. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigster Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 thank you everyone for that. its made the options a little easier now if not a tad more expensive. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanuki Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 There was also an issue with early TD5s where the bolt holding the chain-sprocket to the oil pump would drop out. http://www.landyonline.co.za/techtalk/td5-oil-pump-failure.htm http://www.d2au.com/index.php?topic=534.0 If it fails you have major problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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