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I've been stripping diffs all F day :moglite: for me to do the diff Pegging to,

but I have 3 x of those gastly 3 bolt type where you need a special tool, or

home made bodgerroo..... which I haven't has time to think about.... let alone make

so was wondering :unsure:

Anyone know what the genuine special tool part number is / looks like

/ where to get one cheapest from / how HAHAHAHA£HAHHA Much £s wise :blink: they iz ?

Or do I just have to make one :( grumble grumble

Help

Nige

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these 4 sheets are the Discovery rear diff special tools. text extract with suppliers contact details from my RAVE cd.

SPECIAL SERVICE TOOLS

The use of approved special service tools is

important. They are essential if service operations are

to be carried out efficiently, and safely. Where special

tools are specified, only these tools should be used

to avoid the possibility of personal injury or

damage to the components. Also, the amount of

time which they save can be considerable.

Special tools bulletins will be issued periodically giving

details of new tools as they are introduced.

All orders and enquiries from the United Kingdom

should be sent direct to Cartool (UK) Ltd. Overseas

orders should be placed with the local Cartool

distributor, where one exists. Countries where there is

no distributor may order direct from:

Cartool (UK) Ltd.

Unit 3,

Sterling Business Park,

Brackmills,

Northampton,

England, NN4 7EX.

The tools recommended in this Workshop Manual are

listed in an illustrated catalogue, obtainable from:

Land Rover Publications,

Character Mailing,

Heysham Road,

Bootle,

Merseyside, L70 1JL

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Are you talking about the tool to get the centre bit out thats used to locate the rubber donut?

If so I found oxy acetylene and a slide hammer will remove :) Just had to make a little adaptor for the slide hammer. Get it nice and red hot, have your wheatabix and a brew and they'll be done in no time! :P

HTH

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Erm :(

None of those special tools Ralph are the ones to get the 3 f flange unit orf :(

Anyone / part number piccie ?

I feel a bodgerroo session coming on involving V heavy lumps as the Slide hammer :rofl:

I have some sold 125mm solid bar in the workshop, (doesn't everyone )and I'm not afraid to use it :)

Anyone any idea what the thread is that goes in the end for the slide hammer unit ?

Nige

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Erm :(

None of those special tools Ralph are the ones to get the 3 f flange unit orf :(

Anyone / part number piccie ?

I feel a bodgerroo session coming on involving V heavy lumps as the Slide hammer :rofl:

I have some sold 125mm solid bar in the workshop, (doesn't everyone )and I'm not afraid to use it :)

Anyone any idea what the thread is that goes in the end for the slide hammer unit ?

Nige

those are all the special tools for a discovery rear diff.

found this in the text.

Remove pinion REAR AXLE DIFFERENTIAL ONLY

7. Remove pinion flange centralizing peg using

service tool LRT-51-008.

8. Remove pinion flange nut using service tool

LRT-51-003 to restrain flange.

9. Remove pinion complete with bearing and outer

bearing shims.

10. Remove pinion flange oil seal and bearing.

11. Using service tool LRT-54-505, remove pinion

head bearing track and shim and drive out outer

bearing of differential housing.

diagram shows a 3 bolt flange being extracted from the pinion. rear diff diagram on lower right of page below.

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Remover for the Differential Flange Centraliser Ref: LRT-51-008

Description: The tool to remove the centraliser in the rear differential propshaft drive flange. Those fitted with the rubber doughnut joint.

Application: Discovery I from approx 1994 to 1999.

Price: £144.80 (£170.14 Including VAT at 17.5%)

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Righty Ho then, may the bodgeification process begin :rofl:

now I know what I am making :)

TA All

Nige

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1. I didn't bludy know that the diffs I had gotten hold of some were 3 flange

2. I have seen you, and also myself knackered using the works boderrootastci unit

3. Wondered what the proper tool looked klike

4. Wondered if I made a proper job one copy of the proper one if it would be easier to remove

Kin things :lol:

Nige

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It's pretty easy to bodge:

* Find a sturdy cylinder so the inside fits over the bit that comes out, and is at least 3ish cm high (more is welcome);

* One M6 (I think) bolt, an M6 nut, and a sturdy metal plate (a washer will NOT be enough) with a hole for the bolt that fits over the cylinder;

* Turn the bolt until you're sure it can't rip out of the thread (so a good few turns in);

* Turn the nut until everything is under pressure. Make sure everything lines up. Keep turning the nut;

* Pop.

I've never really had any trouble doing this, apart from finding those *censored* metal plates somewhere in the shop...

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Are you talking about the tool to get the centre bit out thats used to locate the rubber donut?

If so I found oxy acetylene and a slide hammer will remove :) Just had to make a little adaptor for the slide hammer. Get it nice and red hot, have your wheatabix and a brew and they'll be done in no time! :P

HTH

i found, well a mate found that squirt it full of loose oil(he used duck oil) put a bolt in the end and then use then oxi accetaline to heat it

then stand well clear as it makes a bang and the end flies off across the workshop

then you have access to the nut that is holding on the flange

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I first made a tool as in the tech archive, but the thread in the centre stripped... (well ok the bolt snapped in there)

So then I welded a thick piece of threaded bar to the cover and wound it out using large nuts, spacers (small weight lifting weights) and the new 4 bolt flange. Bit o' heat, came off in about 15 mins...

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Right :(

My Solution - Bear in mind I may need to use this a Lot, but its a simple and cheap Tool / Mod to Make

The culprit :( This is the one that broke me puller :(

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So, 1st take what was the end of an old flange, shobve in lathe and ream out so that the unit that would normally fit in

thier is a loose fit, then machine down the length to the seal shoulder :

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(having a shotblaster handy helps :)

The machine up a "Bung" to fit in on the shoulder, machined one side to allow the plunger clearance as it comes up, and

bore a 8mm hole right through it :

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Then get diif, and clamp on the old modified Flange plus Plug + long 8mm Bolty :)

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Add 1000 Ft Lbs Rattle gun :D

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Hit it :ph34r:

15 secs later bungs out

used a 12.9 Allen bolt, as Chris said at work these don't like the abuse, so will get a couple of

12.9 Bolts, on this method, its the bolts thats sacrifical should anything shear :)

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Thanks for all the input here, without it I would have the above :)

Nige

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Hi Nige Don't want to spoil your moment of glory BUT have a plan B ready, sure as hell the 8mm 12.9 will shear leaving you with a broken thread in the plug, difficult to drill out being a 12.9. How do I know, been there have bloody knuckles to prove it. Regards Ian Ashcroft

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Hi Nige Don't want to spoil your moment of glory BUT have a plan B ready, sure as hell the 8mm 12.9 will shear leaving you with a broken thread in the plug, difficult to drill out being a 12.9. How do I know, been there have bloody knuckles to prove it. Regards Ian Ashcroft

:rofl:

:)

Nige

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