the_eaze Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I am adding power locks to the front two doors and would love to add it to the back door as well. I'd like to know if anyone has been able to fit a power lock to the old style rear door. I know I would need a new locking mechanism that would accommodate the actuator (anyone have a part number?). I'd like to hear from anyone that has done it or knows how it can be done. Of course I could just buy a new TD5 style rear door but that would be a lot of $$ just for power locks. Thanks, Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 scroll part way down this thread, to see one way of doing the rear door locking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crwoody Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I did my rear door like this : - Removed lock and drilled out the rivets to open it, removed the lock lever and bent the tab inside : - Drilled a hole through the bottom of the case to pass the operating rod through : - Then stuck it back on the door along with the actuator and adjustable extension rod : - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crwoody Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Sorry, double post there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I tried the first method (the one in the linked thread there) last week but it wasn't working very well at all. I couldn't get the actuator to move the tab up, down wasn't a problem but it didn't like going up. Might be worn inside the mechanism, causing it to bind up somehow. Anyway, I'm going to try crwoody's method next, will report back when done. Getting tired of having to unlock and lock the rear door manually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 This is how the factory do it - . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eaze Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 You guys are awesome! Thank you for the responses. I am going to try the above method with my current door and latch. I am thinking I will order the Spal kit (http://www.spalusa.com/store/main.aspx?p=itemdetail&item=37000176) but does anyone know if this kit will allow you to add a power locking button on the dash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 doubt it, can't see any reason for power locking the doors when the vehicle is occupied, just unlock which ever door you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 doubt it, can't see any reason for power locking the doors when the vehicle is occupied, just unlock which ever door you need. Ralph - probably no reason to in Cornwall, but in some places, it's definately advisable I'm not familiar with the wiring of the SPAL kit, but I wouldn't think that it would be too difficult to add a Lock/Unlock switch on the dash. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSIIA Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 The SPAL kit was fitted to my old 110, and I had cause to sort out the wiring. It's the same setup as the Maplin kit (wiring diagram attached) in that one of the switching wires is pulled to ground to action lock/unlock. In the Maplin circuit, these are white or brown to ground (black). Sorry, can't remember the wire colours for SPAL but a bit of poking the wiring will soon give results. Maplin Central Locking YD77.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I would imagine that (unless the kit had an input specifically for this purpose) just actuating the master solenoid (driver's door) would cause the rest to follow suit. Same as if you lock the driver's door manually, it locks the rest. If I were in a situation where I wanted to lock the doors from inside the vehicle I would just push the button on the keyfob though. Saves a button on the dash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Dave S11A Can the SPAL kits be linked into the Defender alarm/immobiliser ECU so has not to have two fobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Have a look at this - Fitting Central Door Locking to a Defender - by Espen S. Johnsen Fullsize pictures (2048 x 1536) from Espen S. Johnsen's article here - Index of /defender/pictures . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSIIA Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Dave S11A Can the SPAL kits be linked into the Defender alarm/immobiliser ECU so has not to have two fobs? Yes, they do an interface box. IIRC, it requires a negative going pulse. Unfortunately I sold the vehicle some three years back, so no longer have access to the hardware. There used to be some good info on the SPAL USA web site, so that might be a good starting point. FYI, SPAL do/did an electric window kit that works on earlier Td5's, 300Tdi's, etc. This can also be interfaced to alarm system for automatic window closure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Spal UK distributors http://www.sempal.co.uk were extremely helpful on the phone when I was buying from them. Definitely worth a call if you you have questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eaze Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 called spal today and they said their unit AS-80 cannot wire a central door lock button. They said they recommend using their locking units but replacing the keyless unit with something that will allow you to do that. Said this is a common set up for people that want to install an alarm. They will use the spal actuators and parts then wire them to the alarm module or their choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 The_eaze Cheers for your efforts. Do you have a contact number and name as this will ease the process of wadeing through the 'mire' of 'I'll put you onto somebody that can help you with that'!! Just like to know if I can use the prsent Land Rover alarm/immobiliser with an aftermarket central locking system. E-mailed them with the possibility of using their central locking system along with their aftermarket electric windows, they responded that their 'technical department' said that there was not enough room to fit both bsystems??? Anybody know better?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Paul MC Is your photo of the rear door set up on the new rear doors post 2002? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Paul MC Is your photo of the rear door set up on the new rear doors post 2002? It's not my photo, I found it here - http://www.toine-hendriks.nl/hobbies/rear_door_cover_removing.htm But, yes, it is a post-2002 one-piece door. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 It's not my photo, I found it here - http://www.toine-hendriks.nl/hobbies/rear_door_cover_removing.htm But, yes, it is a post-2002 one-piece door. . Thought so hence the additional room, back to the drawing board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon119 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 It is possible to use the existing alarm fob. But as has already been said the Spal kit needs a negative pulse to activate the solenoids and the Land Rover 10as box kicks out a posetive pulse. This is easy enough to change with a coulpe of relays though. Let me know if you want a wiring diagram of what i did to get mine working with the factory fit alarm!! HTH Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Simon119 That would be great as I'm sure it would help others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulch Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Right, I have just had a crack at fitting central locking actuators to the doors of my 110. 1983 CSW Safari doors. Problem: Actuator not powerful to move the locking pin on the back door. Solution: take apart lock to remove spring which is loading locking pin. Problem: can't get lock back together again. Although I filed off two rivets, that shouldn't be a problem. I just can't work out how it all goes back together again. Has anyone done this ? And even better, did anyone take a photo ;-) Cheers, Vulch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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