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Meet Grover - 1957 Series I 109 Pickup LHD Canadian


SouthbankShawn

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Hi - wanted to introduce myself and my new friend The Green Rover (aka Grover), as christened by my young daughter.  Found her locally I’m NW British Columbia, parked after her last road trip in 1998.  She came with lots of documented past work, most in the late 80s.  She also came with most of a spare motor (or the original, haven’t checked the numbers yet), a Koenig hydraulic winch, spare prop shaft, rad (core needs repair), starters, ignition coils, a spare drivers door, many other bits of rusty gold.  My last experience as a gearhead hobbyist  has been with Jeep’s, Chevys, and Scouts.  First foray into something of this era, and first European vehicle.  I look forward to being part of this community.  I have lots of photos to share and questions to ask.  At the moment, since I am new to forums as well, I don’t see an easy ‘attach photo’ button, so I’ll leave that as my first question!

thanks - Southbank Shawn

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to load a photo use the 'choose files' link below the reply text box, this will let you select the photo from your pc/phone & then when you select the photo onthe other window that opens it will upload to your reply, then click 'Submit Reply' 

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12 hours ago, steve b said:

Welcome to the forum Shawn 

Looking forward to seeing your new family member . Is it LHD ? 

Steve b

Yep LHD, and I was told in a Reddit group that it had the Canadian package, but perhaps that was a tongue in cheek comment about it having a cab heater….

thanks for the welcome!

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So the learning continues.  What I thought was a retrofit electric fuel pump I’ve learned from members that it was potentially original equipment.  It made an awful clatter when I put power to it, but didnt move fuel.   I didn’t see any harm so I took it apart and found one dried diaphragm and one rotted gasket.  Looked simple enough to rebuild, so I started looking for rebuild kits on line.  About that time my phone rang, it was my neighbor, a wonderful elderly Mennonite gentleman who enjoys a traditional lifestyle, the only modern convenience is his phone.  Anyways, he asks me ‘did you really buy a Land Rover?’ as he had seen it come up our road when it was delivered (we don’t get a lot of traffic).  Mr. David had for me stories of the beloved 1960 Series II he owned, and he offered me his workshop manual, which looks like it was published yesterday.  When i stopped by to pick up the book, I handed him my fuel pump and he instantly said ‘this is the same as the one that was on my Morris Minor’, sounds like my neighbor has had a wonderful automotive history.  He is presently rebuilding it, with a home made diaphragm from some material he has lying around, and we are going to reinstall tomorrow evening!

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On 5/24/2021 at 6:14 AM, SouthbankShawn said:

Yep LHD, and I was told in a Reddit group that it had the Canadian package, but perhaps that was a tongue in cheek comment about it having a cab heater….

The heater & even windscreen wipers (plural) were optional equipment so it could well be a real thing.

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E8B982D9-B2EB-4C5A-BCDE-094D39B2D2D1.thumb.jpeg.e14b6c5938cfa812a38511bce22cf318.jpegA1AAE304-7A48-4664-A8B7-862188D69364.thumb.jpeg.a330b1ea889e14c51881df74e7933e8f.jpeg52A923A2-D1A2-485A-837D-8281EB6F622B.thumb.jpeg.a9c31985f23d6f43ba8918b046022daa.jpegWell I’m still having fun and making progress, and coming up with questions!

the good new, Grover has successfully made It back and forth to town a couple of times now (50km round trip).  While that’s not the intended use, it will be fun to let others see and enjoy her from time to time, so that brings me to question 1.

With a decent tail wind, I can keep it steady at 90km/hr at 4000 RPM.  Power wise, she doesn’t have much more to give, but I’m fine with that.  I just want to make sure that’s in the healthy operating range.  Oil pressure is at about 60 psi and water temp at about 170 F, and no scary clanks from the drivetrain.  So does that sound about right?  
 

On to the second question, where there is an odd noise involved.  So, battery is not charging, or is not charging consistently (learned that the hard way on one of the trips to town).  This discovery coincided with me building up the courage to take out the ‘custom dash’ and gauges and start troubleshooting lighting issues.  It matches what the previous owner did under the hood, it’s functional, but ugly.  Got the lights working by cleaning fuse holders and sockets, couple new fuses, cleaning corroded connections, etc.  On one of my next test drives, when I turned vehicle off, the red ignition light came on and I could hear a whirring under the hood.  Not a starter, too quiet.  Lifted the hood and to my surprise can belt it still turning and the alternator appears to be driving it. Disconnected the battery, stopped, reconnected, no problem.  It’s happened three or four times now.  I had no idea that I was looking at a dynamo and not an alternator.  So, that’s question 2.  Is that a symptom of a bad dynamo, or should I chase down the wiring first?  What is the function of the module that the power lead from the battery goes to before it goes to ignition module?

thanks!

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Great news, glad your getting to enjoy it.

My expectation for a standard S1 is max speed 59 mph or 98 kph?

Can't answer question 2.

I used to stubbonly trust my handbrake but nearly destroyed my mates S1 when I ignored his waring to keep it in gear aswell. I parked it on top of a hill where it stayed put for 5 to 10 mins then took off. Luckily another friend noticed and dived through the doorway (no door tops fitted) and managed to stop it before it could T bone an immaculately restored Scammell Explorer. Thank god he was mad enough to do it!

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7 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said:

A remarkable degree of trust in the Land Rover handbrake there :lol:

 

...yes I'm just jealous.

Ha!  Well, more to the story.  The gravel was very soft there, and I got to know just how torquey these Landys are, I dug myself a little hole to make sure it didn’t roll away!  TheN I got to try the 4wd for the first time.  Lucky for me, worked fine!

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Lovely truck! I used to look after one of these years ago, it was always a thrill to pick it up from the customer and drive it to the workshop.

Regarding the electrics, it's best to just read the workshop manual, ideally a copy, to preserve your immaculate original, and work your way through things. There's loads of support on the web for this old Lucas stuff, and it remains a reliable electrical system, if looked after .

I think new writing looms are available, but if what you have works, you could just label it up, ensure there are fuses etc, and you'll be fine.

 

More pictures!

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Workshop manual, you need  one for a Series 1.  The good news is that they are available to download for free from

http://smithies.co.nz/land_rover/

 

Download the parts book too, the exploded diagrams are really helpful

When working on the land rover I printbout the pages i need and put them in plastic wallets.  My hard copy printed manual live on the bookcase and never venture out into the workshop

Peter

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