western Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Looking at having the spare better condition headliner recovered, the existing material has seperate because the foam backing has given up, Anyone know how much material I need to cover all 4 sections, front has a sunroof, centre, rear & above door sections are standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 The problem with that question is in knowing the dimensions the material is available in - you might be able to find some wide enough to cover the width of each section, so you wouldn’t need a great deal more than the length of the roof with little off cut. But it’s quite likely you’ll only find something a bit narrower that doesn’t quite reach the width of the sections and you end up having to lay the length of the fabric in line with the width of the panels (ie 90 degrees out), which will result in wide off cuts and a much longer piece of fabric ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Most headliner material is around 58" wide, so should be ample for a 110 to go lengthways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 Place I am in contact with at the moment says he can get 140cm wide material, the length as we need so that shouldn't be a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 In that case, I’d plan on each panel plus 2” in each edge as an absolute minimum, but ideally double that to allow for slight misalignment as contact adhesive isn’t forgiving. Don’t forget to add another 18” or whatever for the panel over the rear door and some more for the sun visors, assuming you want them to match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) Yes in the measurements I did I have allowed for the folded over edges, Not bothered about the sun visors they will just get a wash & scrub, I hardly ever use mine, still not sure if 140cm will be wide enough, when I remeasured the front section earlier today I pushed the tape down so it was tight to the lumps & bumps plus 3cm at the edges, it came out to nearly 160cm from side to side, I haven't heard back yet, maybe get a reply tomorrow or Monday. A quick Google brought this place up with a 110 headliner kit, so I might go for that instead & do a bit of diy https://martrim.co.uk/car-trimming-supplies/product-details.php?productId=519 Edited February 17, 2023 by western Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Sounds like you’ll need to order more in length to run the fabric at 90 degrees to the roof - I’m pretty sure the “length” of each of the sections is less than 1.40m. Unless it is patterned or extremely expensive, I’d do it that way just to give the maximum flexibility and error margin when bonding it to the panels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I used to use Martrim kits for all my Defender & Range Rover restorations- very nice quality and they send ample material, wasn't worth me going elsewhere to save a couple of sheckles. The pvc factory style is a little tricky to do nicely as there are some tight deep corners on a 110, it's hard to make it stretch enough even on a hot day, I never managed it without wrinkles, the material is great and looks just right though. I had better results with the brushed nylon style cloth on Range Rover roofs, stretches to shape much easier. Worth spending time scrubbing all of the old foam off and 'painting' the roof liners with pva or ideally resin gel before trimming it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 18, 2023 Author Share Posted February 18, 2023 Thanks for the info & tips, not heard any more from the Facebook contact yet, this is not a urgent job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Mike on BritRest did a good video on how to shape the roof lining around the complex parts by the sun visor recesses - he put the assembled front section and liner into a sealed back and vacuumed the air out with a domestic vacuum cleaner so that air pressure uniformly pushed the lining against the backing in all the corners and kept it there while the glue went off. Might be best to use something slower setting and not as instantly grabbing as impact adhesive for that. A bit of heat from a strong hair drier should allow the vinyl or other synthetic lining to stretch and conform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 See if you can find my old post on it Ralph. I detailed it all in there. I will have a look for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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reb78 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 The old links to lanrovernet dont work. I will see if i can find the length of fabric i bought tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) Here you go - the main link that inspired me. https://www.lrukforums.com/threads/defender-headliner-refurb.147776/ Edited February 20, 2023 by reb78 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 22, 2023 Author Share Posted February 22, 2023 https://martrim.co.uk/car-trimming-supplies/land-rover-defender-pvc-headlining-kits.php So most likely get it ordered Another thought is it good to add some insulation to the inside of roof before fitting the refurbished headliner sections? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurbie Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, western said: https://martrim.co.uk/car-trimming-supplies/land-rover-defender-pvc-headlining-kits.php So most likely get it ordered Another thought is it good to add some insulation to the inside of roof before fitting the refurbished headliner sections? my 3 door 110 had no insulation in the rear load area , so installed some 1 cm thick matting to the roof , i also did the front section under the headliner . so no idea how usefull this is , but in my car it was a huge difference . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 I have a LaSalle headliner in my 109. The centre sections of each panel are recessed between the ribs, so the voids are quite shallow. All the same, I think the camping mat that I glued in across the whole of the centre and rear sections help a lot with noise and heat insulation. Heavier systems like Dynamat would be better, but I wasn’t sure I had the space for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) See my post above in the link. I did soundproofing mats - the fake flashing stuff would do, followed by camping mats that I think I bought for £1 a roll in B&Q many years ago, and then the relined headliner. Its worked well. Edited February 23, 2023 by reb78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 Thanks all, plenty to think about & read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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