oddballrovers Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Hi Folks. Had an idea today, in the weekend we where out on the last round off the danish Challenge Championship and we did belly out in quite a few places so we lost time winching. So while washing the damm thing it just stroke me what if one welded up the holes in the transferbox turned it sp that the bottom off the box was raised by 2" new holes drilled and off course there is also all the levers propshafts and so on to take care off. Not to mention the flor in the passenger side. Have I over looked something inside the or out side wich prevents me from doing so??? Kind regards Ole. PS.Here a link to some pictures from this weekend. http://picasaweb.google.dk/fn26321402/HighlandChallenge2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Oil level? I think the front prop will point at the bellhousing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Only immediate problem I could see would be the drasticly increased propshaft angles..... if you already have a 2" suspension lift then you are going to be in real trouble with your UJs! Actual technical difficulties of doing what you suggest.... well I don't know too much about the gearboxes on these things..... that's this winter's job on my lightweight Bowie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Oil level?I think the front prop will point at the bellhousing It shouldn't get any closer to the bell housing as its rotated (clocked) because the bell housing is more or less a constant radius on that side. I think it would be difficult but not impossible to keep the transfercase concentric with the gearbox when drilling the new bolt and dowell pin holes, unless you have a suffix D transmission whereby the accurately machined bore at the front of the transfercase spigots over the gearbox rear bearing carrier. Earlier t/cases just have a rough cast hole at the front and rely on the dowell pins to align with the gearbox. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 i would think u'd run into problems with the transfer case hitting the chassis leg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 It may actually be easier to cant the whole engine & trasnmission over ????????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 It may actually be easier to cant the whole engine & trasnmission over ????????????????? Brilliant. A wedge to level the carburator, heat and bend the gearlever and you're away. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Brilliant. A wedge to level the carburator, heat and bend the gearlever and you're away.Bill. Bill, sometimes i just dont know whether your mucking about or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 You'd still have problems with prop angles..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddballrovers Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 It shouldn't get any closer to the bell housing as its rotated (clocked) because the bell housing is more or less a constant radius on that side.I think it would be difficult but not impossible to keep the transfercase concentric with the gearbox when drilling the new bolt and dowell pin holes, unless you have a suffix D transmission whereby the accurately machined bore at the front of the transfercase spigots over the gearbox rear bearing carrier. Earlier t/cases just have a rough cast hole at the front and rely on the dowell pins to align with the gearbox. Bill. Hi Bill It is a suff D main mated to an older One Ton transferbox, I could use the rear off mainbox as a toll to make a guide from to make a toll to drill the holes after. And yes the prop would not foul the bell housing as you say it will turn around the centerline off the main box. Regards Ole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddballrovers Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 You'd still have problems with prop angles..... Hi Bowie I do not think so, because I do run props that are close to 45 they are home made out off yoke from the front axle and som agricultural stuff. Regards Ole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddballrovers Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 It may actually be easier to cant the whole engine & trasnmission over ????????????????? Hi 'rtbarton. I do not like the idea off tilting the engine, but why not tilt the whole g-box might be worth a thought, just cut and weld a new slot for the starter motor and drill some new holes for the bell housing. Will go and have a look at it. Regards Ole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddballrovers Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 i would think u'd run into problems with the transfer case hitting the chassis leg? Hi Tonk No there is plenty off room. Regards Ole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddballrovers Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 Hi Folks I have settled for turning the whole gearbox, les complicated, have just been out taking maesures, there is plenty off room for lovering the box opposite the lower end off the transferbox and raising it at lower end. I will let you know how it all turns out. It is just so great with this forum. Thanks again Ole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Is it a SIII? if so there may be an issue with the clutch slave cylinder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddballrovers Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 Is it a SIII? if so there may be an issue with the clutch slave cylinder. Yes but that one is also solved either by using a series II bell or by welding up that hole and using a slave cylinder from a SAAB I do not know what it is called but it is a cylinder that the input shaft goes through one saves a lot off weight in that way. But thanks for pointing that one out. Kind regards Ole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 It's a release bearing isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddballrovers Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 It's a release bearing isn't it? Hi Fridge. Yes SAAB uses some that works like them, the ones on your pic is some costly racy things I think I think I paid 50£ for an OE SAAb one. Regards Ole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Bill,sometimes i just dont know whether your mucking about or not No, I was being serious Tonkus. Many series owners would like to get the transfercase up higher and move the 2 crossmembers up out of the way. I lifted the complete engine /transmission up because I didn't want to rework all my adaptor plates, but leaning the complete assembly over seems like a reasonable idea too, as is redrilling and tapping the flywheel housing. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossy Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 No, I was being serious Tonkus. Many series owners would like to get the transfercase up higher and move the 2 crossmembers up out of the way. I lifted the complete engine /transmission up because I didn't want to rework all my adaptor plates, but leaning the complete assembly over seems like a reasonable idea too, as is redrilling and tapping the flywheel housing.Bill. I vote to lift the whole thing, would be so much easier ? (still not easy though!) i think mine is about three inches higher than standard. no problems with shaft angle (109) but really need to adapt a cable hand brake setup. also - you'll need to raise the engine mounts the same to ensure the prop shaft angles are kept the same. any way my 2c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I like that - it makes one hell of a difference! The engine sits sooooo low in a series as standard anyway. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 only prob is if u've got a swb with longer than standard transmission u will run into prop angle probs. nice if u can get away with it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Also if you raise the whole bang-shoot you also raise the centre of gravity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I vote to lift the whole thing, would be so much easier ? (still not easy though!)i think mine is about three inches higher than standard. no problems with shaft angle (109) but really need to adapt a cable hand brake setup. also - you'll need to raise the engine mounts the same to ensure the prop shaft angles are kept the same. any way my 2c Yes Crossy your NP435 gearbox, like my T98, is deep and as low as the bottom of the transfercase so lifting the whole lot is really the only option, and is probably why I did it that way. I really should keep a record of what I have done and the reasons for doing them, rather than relying on my failing memory. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossy Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 yes Bill, and post more photos! you could (should) write a book on it all. maybe call it - 1001 reasons to hate land rover ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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