JST Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 No Tony, its just the thought process. once the xd is fixed i am after something that will last longer than 12mths before needing another overhaul. So will an 8274 fit in this? whats the distance between the mouting holes top to bottom that the winch needs? to note an X9 will fit here so put another way anyone now have an 8274 in a bumper that used to run an X9 or equivalent. Tony - where is your solenoid pack mounted? All these additional disk brakes etc, do most people operate them manually? is there any way to make it operate when the winch motor isn't working? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Mounting pattern is the same 10" by 4.5" as yours, you'll need about 2" between lower mount hole and base of bumper. Main problem maybe depth. I think you need about 9-9.5" between face of bumper and back of winch. Can't measure mine as I've no longer got it. Tony is using an allbright solenoid, mounted in the wing behind light IIRC. My solenoid was mounted in battery box. Disc brake additions that I have seen are normally manually operated so can work whenever. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Can't measure mine as I've no longer got it. Tony is using an allbright solenoid, mounted in the wing behind light IIRC. My solenoid was mounted in battery box.Steve James,, welcome to pop over and have a measure up, when you get 10 mins !! Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 James, the minimum you'll have to do is cut a small nick out of the top lip of you're bumper to stop the gearbox fowling. Making an adaitional brake act as you suggest is possible; it just needs something that is operated by a soliniod that engages when the winch soiliniod dissengages. Personally, I wouldn't do that, though. Most times you don't need the additional winch brake engaged perminantly when no power is applied and its sometimes useful to use the brake while winching (ie lowering down). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 What is that abomination in the last piccie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiWhite Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 James, Yours looks like a BRB bumper - if so, that's what my 8274 is mounted into. The mounting holes had to be redrilled about 20mm higher, and an inch long section cut from the top rail lip thingy. Other than that, it'll go straight in. My Allbrights are mounted on the top of the engine bay, on the same side as the washer bottle. It has a big flap of rubber over it to stop the bonnet shorting the contact points out. That way, it's nice and high and out of the water, and easy to wire up etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted November 3, 2005 Author Share Posted November 3, 2005 Dave - that my old office chair, i know no place for it in a Wksp. Guys thanks for the responses, one less thing to purchase then..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Bear in mind if you cut that top lip out you are taking a fair bit of stength out of the front plate.......been down that route and got a B£*&^king of Nige.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted November 3, 2005 Author Share Posted November 3, 2005 Well having just potentaily writted off my £500 commuting car i now have time to wait for the insurance companies to ring whilst i they sort things out. So back to bumper, Cutting that lump out agreed would destroy the bumper integrity, so asuming that there is enough depth to allow it could spacers be used so the gearbox cleared the lip? Huskys for example oare moutned on spacers as they dont have flat bottoms, so presume this should casue too much of an issue. the holes on mine would def need moving up to allow fitment. i am assuming though that the respective drums are in roughly the same place therefore the letter box could/would stay where it was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 spacer blocks are common fitment, alternative is make the cutout for it to sit flush and weld strength back on the front, bit of box section or suchlike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 If you use a spacer block all you need is some old V8 head bolt because there longer than the ones that the 8274 comes with but have the same thread patten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 If you use a spacer block all you need is some old V8 head bolt because there longer than the ones that the 8274 comes with but have the same thread patten. 8274's don't use special bolts. Unless, there'some different ones I haven't seen. Just use longer HT bolts with new nyloc's Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 While I was fitting my new 8274/50 last year in the garden I did not have any new nylocks so I needed to use the factory nut supplyed. as V8 engines are not in short supply in my garden I used them and they were a perfict fit (frog told me when I moaned about the carp bolts they supplied with the adaptor kit for the ARB bumper that did not fit the squar headed nuts in the winch housing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 The nuts are 7/16" UNC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 While I was fitting my new 8274/50 last year in the garden I did not have any new nylocks so I needed to use the factory nut supplyed. as V8 engines are not in short supply in my garden I used them and they were a perfict fit (frog told me when I moaned about the carp bolts they supplied with the adaptor kit for the ARB bumper that did not fit the squar headed nuts in the winch housing) Ah got it now, I thought maybe there were some 8274's out there that had drilled casings for the bolts to go into. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 James or try this ?? only local,, may be of use !!! 8274 winch bumper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted November 6, 2005 Author Share Posted November 6, 2005 Tim - i must have been too slow, link doesnt work anymore. out of interest whats your bobtail running on the front? thank you anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 correct that link does not work any more,, did when i posted it ! try this one 8274 bumper this one works at present !! finishes tomorrow night,, only in Exeter item number 4586596454 Tim o yes,, a X9 is on the Rangie,,But 8274 on the new beast !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted November 6, 2005 Author Share Posted November 6, 2005 Tim cheers for the info. XD now fixed (for the moment until it get sover used again) i expect i will run with my std bumper and an 8274 (mid next year possibility for purchase) more importantly so whats the new beast and is it coming along on the 4 Dec? Ibex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Timcheers for the info. XD now fixed (for the moment until it get sover used again) i expect i will run with my std bumper and an 8274 (mid next year possibility for purchase) more importantly so whats the new beast and is it coming along on the 4 Dec? Ibex? well someone had to buy it !!! see hybrid Had a chance to look her over today,, and a test run, loads of water , a little bit to do, but will be out for Seven Sisters, and the 4th Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 Tim you lucky lucky man looks bloody smart and alot of work gone into it - could do with a cage though! and rear winch, with some nice alli lockers for kit. Whats the thoughts keeping it as a rag top? am looking forward to my trip on the 4th already, will bring some warm clothes!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 what's all this on the 4th then? B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 The greenlaning trip on exmoor/quantocks Scottydo is taking us on, the one you are/were coming along on! any better? get the mail ref logs? Warn now fixed. Husky apparantly needs alot of remedial work, its got a lower gear ratio than std as well apparantly, is that the commercial rating bit, hence the different flap as well. Free spool lever has worn internally (somewhere) giving lots of lateral movement. lastest i was told is that it may be cheaper to get another one.......................cant believe that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Oops I forgot that! If they are quoting silly money to repair collect it and get Phil at PG to look at it he is a really decent bloke and I'm sure will sort it for you. still rough hopefully will be right by the end of this week. logs yes thanks Ill be there asap to collect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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