Guest diesel_jim Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Sorry for the cross forum posting, but this will interest a lot of new defender owners! It's about the propshaft hitting the sump. there's a .pdf service bulletin there to download too. actually, i'll paste it here for non LRA members. Coppa2.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Jim - i have been looking for that PDF for ages - cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WALFY Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 So will they recall or is it a case of when it next goes in they'll change it if it has witness marks? Need to get mine out and about then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top90 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Thanks Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 So will they recall or is it a case of when it next goes in they'll change it if it has witness marks? Need to get mine out and about then It says on the lra post - there's no recall, you need to go and complain of 'a noise underneath' preferably with the witness marks there ready and waiting - If it was me i'd just print off the pdf and take it in with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 i also heard there is to be no recall, you need to do ^^^^^ i would take the pdf with me then ask them why they denied knowing about it hey Tim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipx2 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 They kind of admitted it since last year in October (or even earlier) when they decided to design a new sump: http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?s=&s...st&p=195818 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 If the Transit engine had been correctly reengineered for Defender & fully tested this wouldn't have happened, cheap ford engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 My local dealer is already on the case,, Did mention it, when it was last in, and they of course denied all knowledge !! They now have the Bulletin number, so no excuse, Now where did i put that knocking stick !!! PS Thanks Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 So will they recall or is it a case of when it next goes in they'll change it if it has witness marks? Need to get mine out and about then why not jack the front up, remove a road spring and lower it down...dent the sump (or wrap the propshaft in sandpaper and spin it a bit!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 I think it would be less hassle to explain that as the vehicle is likely be used severely in future and in light of the recognised problem you want the new pan fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRWOO Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 I wonder if once the new pan is installed the oil level on the dipstock is affected, i.e not accurate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 A similar problem to the International 2.8TGV engine. M&D Engineering do an exchange sump modified to overcome the problem. On mine the propshaft used to clip the dipstick pipe where it entered the sump, when the suspension was compressed (eg. speed bumps etc.). John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 There's even a page on LR Oh now, no doubt they'll soon be stating how the modified sump is the best thing that LR have ever come out with and how they spent millions out in Iceland and the Mojabe desert testing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel TD5 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 is it just left hand drive model that are affected as the technical bulletin is titled defender (LD) ? dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 is it just left hand drive model that are affected as the technical bulletin is titled defender (LD) ? dan I think LHD models are more likely to suffer from the problem, due apparently to the panhard rod being mounted on the oter side of the chassis, but in relation to the above quesion, "LD" is the VIN suffix for Landrover Defender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipx2 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 No, it affects both LHDs and RHDs. LD comes from the 4th and 5th characters in the VIN and it designates a Defender, as LJ designates a Disco, LN a Freeby, LP a Range Rover. Nobody would use "LD" instead of "LHD", unless a world shortage of ink or something P.S. Jim was quicker ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSG Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Hmmm - phone call time then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneten110 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 If the Transit engine had been correctly reengineered for Defender & fully tested this wouldn't have happened, cheap ford engines. More like lack of proper testing by Land Rover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie nz Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 glad I didnt trade up my 03 to an 08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Wright Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Does anyone know for sure whether current production Defenders have the new oil pan fitted and hence this is, for them, a non-problem. Or, are LR still fitting the old pan and only changing when they get an incident or a complaint. I have a friend with a 90 HT about to be delivered, which could well go seriously off-roading. I told him to get the dealer to check the tank breather pipe relocation had been done, I wonder if I need to tell him about this problem as well? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 glad I didnt trade up my 03 to an 08 I'm glad I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel TD5 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 i am glad too it can blow steam full apart drip oil i don't care as i don't pay for any repairs Land Rover do and when its broke i get a nice hire car so i love my broken made by drunks on a friday after noon defender daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 glad I didnt trade up my 03 to an 08 I am so glad i did as well , Only thing i miss is the front panel vents,, certainly nothing else !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSG Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 And I'm glad I traded - the Puma is much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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