sheeppimp Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I hope that many will read this thread and start to wear helmets without having to be asked.This would do away with the need for many regs and generally make things safer for everyone I suspect that once a fairly large proportion choose to wear helmets that is likely to hasten organisers to bring in regulations requiring them. I believe this is roughly what happened with the introduction legislation requiring crash helmets on motorcycles and a similar thing with the wearing of seatbelts although I'm prepared to be wrong.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Abel Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 and my daddys bigger than yours... get a grip have you tried ringing a helmet manufacturer? perhaps ask about how to identify compression damage to the lining of a previously hit helmet? perhaps we need Neals input on the liability in reference to PPE meeting a minimum standard to be eligable to enter a competition - and specifically if that places the responsibility of "fit for purpose" onto the organisers and how they propose to judge at what point a helmet is beyond its useful life? yeah yeah, i understand your point but in reality a helmet will take a few small knocks with no problem, obviously the helmet manufacturer would not agree with that. and my daddys bigger than yours... get a grip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 "Check this out : http://www.mudrhino.com.au/Movies/EngelTeaser2.wmv Imagine doing that without a helmet ? " Jezus Jim, I've got a 4.2 Turbo Patrol but it wont shift like that (I think) But after watching that it could be time for a re-think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Abel Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 "Check this out : http://www.mudrhino.com.au/Movies/EngelTeaser2.wmv Imagine doing that without a helmet ? " Jezus Jim, I've got a 4.2 Turbo Patrol but it wont shift like that (I think) But after watching that it could be time for a re-think Cool video clip, looks great fun, helmets are probably a good idea when hitting stuff that fast and hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Cool video clip, looks great fun, helmets are probably a good idea when hitting stuff that fast and hard That looks to me like an ordinary pay and play day in the uk. Brain in the glove box and floor it! Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9OSV Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 "Jezus Jim, I've got a 4.2 Turbo Patrol but it wont shift like that (I think) But after watching that it could be time for a re-think Mate, You would be staggered what they do with them. They take the 4.2, 4.5 and 4.8 straight sixes bolt a turbo the size of my engine to the side of theres and take off ! Andrew Cassar, Pete Mikalof and Adam Bird (and many others)all do this. Birdie went down the quarter mile in sub 14 secs and his is not considered the fastest @Daan: Your not wrong Whats your thought on helmets? You usaully have a different take on stuff like this? Thoughts? Jim Ps: That entire DVD will be available for the Gigglepin stand @ Billing or just come and watch as we'll have the DVD running all weekend.........Bring beer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLineMike Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Mate,You would be staggered what they do with them. They take the 4.2, 4.5 and 4.8 straight sixes bolt a turbo the size of my engine to the side of theres and take off ! Andrew Cassar, Pete Mikalof and Adam Bird (and many others)all do this. Birdie went down the quarter mile in sub 14 secs and his is not considered the fastest @Daan: Your not wrong Whats your thought on helmets? You usaully have a different take on stuff like this? Thoughts? Jim Ps: That entire DVD will be available for the Gigglepin stand @ Billing or just come and watch as we'll have the DVD running all weekend.........Bring beer.... jim- can i pre order a dvd just now then as i wont be at billing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Mate,You would be staggered what they do with them. They take the 4.2, 4.5 and 4.8 straight sixes bolt a turbo the size of my engine to the side of theres and take off ! Andrew Cassar, Pete Mikalof and Adam Bird (and many others)all do this. Birdie went down the quarter mile in sub 14 secs and his is not considered the fastest @Daan: Your not wrong Whats your thought on helmets? You usaully have a different take on stuff like this? Thoughts? Jim Ps: That entire DVD will be available for the Gigglepin stand @ Billing or just come and watch as we'll have the DVD running all weekend.........Bring beer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 @Daan: Your not wrong Whats your thought on helmets? You usaully have a different take on stuff like this?Thoughts? Jim Ps: That entire DVD will be available for the Gigglepin stand @ Billing or just come and watch as we'll have the DVD running all weekend.........Bring beer.... I have to say helmets are a good thing. I suppose imposing the full MSA spec is going a bit far IMO, but in case there is a liability claim, that is probably the only save way to do it and covers all angles. Its inconvenient, but a good thing I think. A shame that the safety- and helmet thread on the devon site turned into a complete load of headless chicken, sounding like the type of conversation which I can also get in the pub down the road. That is my take on the whole situation, since you asked! Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrik Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Ps: That entire DVD will be available for the Gigglepin stand @ Billing or just come and watch as we'll have the DVD running all weekend.........Bring beer.... Maybe you can bring us the dvd on an evening @ Billing and have a chat, we'll be at Dieter's stand (D&G Tuning) and have FREE Belgium draught beer (is this correct english) the whole weekend! rgds H. P.S. sorry to interrupt this interesting conversation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Maybe you can bring us the dvd on an evening @ Billing and have a chat, we'll be at Dieter's stand (D&G Tuning) and have FREE Belgium draught beer (is this correct english) the whole weekend!rgds H. P.S. sorry to interrupt this interesting conversation No no no you have our complete attention do continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 "Check this out : http://www.mudrhino.com.au/Movies/EngelTeaser2.wmv Imagine doing that without a helmet ? " Jezus Jim, I've got a 4.2 Turbo Patrol but it wont shift like that (I think) But after watching that it could be time for a re-think Grate clip have you seen some of the Dave Metkarf challenge rounds DVD's just as good to watch... I'm working hard trying to talk my local MSA club in to starting challenges as there trailing number are down to only a few competitors but I think I will keep that one back because as far as there concerned challenges are a fatality waiting to happen (this is a club which has been trialing and compsafaris for over thirty years its a uphill battle I will probably lose. Joking aside there is nothing happening in those clips that you wouldn't see on a average comp safari just different trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrik Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 No no no you have our complete attention do continue just come over to say hello, you won't be able to miss the stand and beer...! B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9OSV Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Maybe you can bring us the dvd on an evening @ Billing and have a chat, we'll be at Dieter's stand (D&G Tuning) and have FREE Belgium draught beer (is this correct english) the whole weekend!rgds H. P.S. sorry to interrupt this interesting conversation Sounds like a plan......... There are going to be some sore heads.........Again Is Dieter bringing his big LS monster? @Daan: I am afraid you are right about the other thread, shame as there where some good thoughts. I tend to agree with yourself that helmets is common sense and that if brought in sensibly would be a very worth while thing to do. I was out yesterday test driving a new car, they are so quick now and cover the ground so fast and deal with terrian in an unbelieve manner, that you can find yourself in a lot of trouble very quickly A crash helmet is a must for that kind of car. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrik Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 There are going to be some sore heads.........Again Is Dieter bringing his big LS monster? yes and yes see you there! rgds H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthy boy Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Sounds like a plan......... There are going to be some sore heads.........Again Is Dieter bringing his big LS monster? @Daan: I am afraid you are right about the other thread, shame as there where some good thoughts. I tend to agree with yourself that helmets is common sense and that if brought in sensibly would be a very worth while thing to do. I was out yesterday test driving a new car, they are so quick now and cover the ground so fast and deal with terrian in an unbelieve manner, that you can find yourself in a lot of trouble very quickly A crash helmet is a must for that kind of car. Jim And maybe some sonar eh Jim????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrik Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 And maybe some sonar eh Jim????? Hey there, Will you and the buggy be @ Billing too? rgds H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthy boy Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Hey there,Will you and the buggy be @ Billing too? rgds H. We will be there with Allisport. Tim PS posted some pics in International forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsie Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 finally managed to get to the crash hat shop today and came away with 2 shiny new skidlids,both for £100 Paul B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsr341 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 finally managed to get to the crash hat shop today and came away with 2 shiny new skidlids,both for £100 Paul B) Marsie any chance of some pics/specs of helmets , and where you bought your head protection from ? need to get one before manby and deffently for tay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 I did done some testing on a south African product which is a cheaper version of the hans device for a mate which was looking at marketing them in the uk I pursonaly found for racing I didn't it that restrictive supprisingly enough and was quite happy to wear it after a few laps of racing but for challenging and the current uk events its IMHO massive over kill and simply would not work. Slight OT,,!! Jules,, If the South African version of the Hans devise, can get past FIA approval,, and can be supplied cheaper,, IE under £500 each, they will be onto a winner !! We have to go down the Hans route for 1st Jan next year,, around £2k for Post helmets and the neck restraint !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Slight OT,,!! Jules,, If the South African version of the Hans devise, can get past FIA approval,, and can be supplied cheaper,, IE under £500 each, they will be onto a winner !! We have to go down the Hans route for 1st Jan next year,, around £2k for Post helmets and the neck restraint !!! If your intrested I will dig out some info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 If your intrested I will dig out some info Than would be appreciated Jules, certainly if they have FIA approval,, Helmets already upgraded to Hans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsie Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 yep,they are OMP axis open face,nowt flash but meet bs6658-85 type a.Got them from EARS motorsport in Macclesfield.They have various makes and sizes upto £££££££££££s!! http://www.ears.co.uk/ Paul B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 90 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 This where we are headed, and i would like helmets to be complusory sooner rather than later.......Check this out : http://www.mudrhino.com.au/Movies/EngelTeaser2.wmv Imagine doing that without a helmet ? If this is where were heading then lets hurry up and get there. That's awesome, Just the kind of driving I like . Jim, Find me some of them big axles so I can!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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