first year of build

[siggy]

what was the first year of build for the landrover 90?

[muddyplugger]

I'll pitch in the bidding to start at 1983.

[minivin]

Haynes Series 1, 2 & 3 Restoration Manual by Lindsay Porter, it say 1984 being the launch with a 2.25 petrol and 2.5 diesel being the options

Edited December 28, 2005 by minivin

[siggy]

so this is probably not good then??

[minivin]

sounds like a Series III, that has acquired a coilie conversion, amongst everything else in the process

<edit> bulkhead has the defender winscreen water jet, of course wing having defender air inlet, date just doesn't match, weird

Edited December 28, 2005 by minivin

[siggy]

That's what I thought.............. so hasn't he misrepresented it?

[minivin]

not sure, it seems to have alot of defender-ish items, while age and wheel-base matches Series, could become a real issue with the DVLA or Insurance if it was involved in an accident

[Matt Neale]

I can't see anyone shortening a 90 chassis down to 88" somehow.

Getting hold of the VIN / Chassis number would explain a lot, but a 1981 vehicle has got to be a Series 3 - looks to be a right bitsa too....

Best walk away from that one I think...

Matt

[siggy]

don't worry I would touch it with any of this forums enlightened members................no I saw it here first I just needed confirmation on dates

[western]

As it's on a suffix 'W' reg then it isn't a 90, plus the rear lights are both above the reg plate which gives it away as a very updated Series 3.

110's came in 1983 & 90's in 1984.

Edited December 28, 2005 by western

[Les Henson]

I 'asked the seller a question' :-

How come your 90 is registered 1981 when the first one didn't roll off the production line until 1984?

It'll be interesting to see what he says if he bothers to reply.

He's probably advertising it as a 90 as he'll get more for it using that name.

Disco axles, coils, 5sp gearbox, Mazda engine. Doesn't that make it a 'Q' plate?

Les.

Edited December 29, 2005 by Les Henson

[Guest diesel_jim]

Disco axles, coils, 5sp gearbox, Mazda engine. Doesn't that make it a 'Q' plate?

Les.

when i built my 90, which is on a Q plate, the only real thing that had any issue with it becoming a Q was that i couldn't prove the chassis was new. they took the axle numbers, and engine number, but that was only for the V5 document, they told me that axles,bodywork (unless it's a monocoque shell) and engines don't determine the number plate prefix. just the "main" part of the vehicle, which in a LR case is the chassis.

[siggy]

Any idea has to how long it is before questions apear down the bottom?

[minivin]

Any idea has to how long it is before questions apear down the bottom?

If the seller ticks the box for "Show response" then it should appear straight away, but even if they don't you should get an email or a message in your "My Ebay" very rapidly

[siggy]

So probably Mr Hensons Question wont appear?

[Les Henson]

I got this reply this morning:-

It is registered as an 88inch although it is a 90 shortened. Basically it is a 'Hybrid'. Hope this is of some help. Please contact me again if you have any other queries.

Regards Iain

I'm going to ask him why it isn't advertised as a S3 then.

Sent this:-

Thanks for the quick reply.

As the vehicle is therefore a Series3 Land Rover shouldn't you be advertising it as such? Saying it's a 90 when in fact it isn't is fraud as far as I see it. 90 refers to the wheel base, which you say is 88" and 1981, which makes it a late series 3. I hope you are aware that you could be prosecuted for selling it this way?

Les.

Edited December 29, 2005 by Les Henson

[siggy]

^^^^^^^^^^^

And the response was??

damn things hit £1000 why is the song "there may be trouble ahead" rolling around my bonce...

[muddyplugger]

Yeh, but look now, he has posted the question that someone else has has asked ( ), so its all upfront, its not a series III is a 90 'hybrid' built in 1981.

Wow, must be worth at least £100,000, as its the only 90 prototype before the designers got pen to paper

Edited - What appears to be an annoyed reply from the seller states: "Right, on the log book it clearly states that the vehicle is an 88inch-4 cylinder. As I said, it is a 90, shortened to an 88inch. This is known as a 'Hybrid'."

So there you go. An 88inch is a shortened 90. Where do you make the 2" cut??

[Les Henson]

According to Mr (clever bluddy dick) Western, the rear tub is different, so the rear half of the chassis.

Still a bit dodgy by the sounds of it. It would be far easier (and honester) to say it's a late S3 with the list of mods.

If I was going to buy it I'd want to take a very careful look at the reg document.

Les.

[BogMonster]

Actually it needs to be a 4.9" cut as a "90" is 92.9in

Get it wrong and you'll end up with something dodgy you then need to unload on ebay

[Mark90]

Ooops, thought for a minute I'd come to the SII forum by mistake

[siggy]

Just sent him this

I have done some checking and the first 90inch landrovers were built in 1983/4 how come yours was built in 1981??

Lets see what response I get?

[siggy]

By the way can anybody confirm to me the registration for a solihul vehicle one used in factory etc

**** WAG isn't it ?

[series3_mad]

it has to be a series 3, but wouldn't it have a pto hole in the rear crossmember and it does look like something has been patched up.

Edited December 30, 2005 by series3_mad

[western]

By the way can anybody confirm to me the registration for a solihul vehicle one used in factory etc

**** WAG isn't it ?

Your thinking of the G***WAC Discovery's & RR's for 1989.

there's a few different Birmingham letter codes that were used by LR.