landrover598 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I want to make up quick release jump leads for my land rover and was wondering what size connector do i need to use? 175 / 350 amps, it's a tdi engine landy And what size / type of wire should i use, and do i need to run the return back to the battery or straight to the chassis ? Where is the cheapest place to get the quick release connector, wire and big croc clips from ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I want to make up quick release jump leads for my land rover and was wondering what size connector do i need to use?175 / 350 amps, it's a tdi engine landy And what size / type of wire should i use, and do i need to run the return back to the battery or straight to the chassis ? Where is the cheapest place to get the quick release connector, wire and big croc clips from ? I may have just the thing you are looking for! They will go on the web on monday. 4.5m 35mm ultra flexible welding cable terminated in 175A Anderson connectors on one end and 10mm ring terminals on the other. The long bit has a pair of 400A welding clamps (you just cant get croc clips man enough!). The 175A connector is easily enough as it is continuously rated at 175A. I have stuck 1200A through the 50A connectors and although they get hot, they are not damaged even with 5 min duration. You can short out an optima for over a minute with the 175A without it getting noticably warm! 350A is way over the top. My leads will cold crank a Tdi immediatly or run an 8274 (6Hp) on another vehicle quite happily. I'mdoing a complete kit for £60 retail with a bit of a discount for forum - if you are interested! You'll struggle to get all the bits for that assuming you use cable which is up to the job. I wouldn't go anywhere without mine! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 On my 90 i use an military inter-vehicle slave lead. these have the round plugs/sockets on them, and the cables are 70mm2 (i think, from memory). plenty beefy enough thoug... i think i could tow using them! probably overkill, but like Simon's ones he's mentioned, far better to have too much than too little! Got my croc clips from the local motor factors, think they're rated at 24v lorry kind of amperage, so rather like welding kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02GF74 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 plenty beefy enough thoug... i think i could tow using them! go on then; there is an ongoing call for dangerous recovery pics!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 Simon, how much wire is there between the connector and the battery ring terminals ? and where is the best place to locate the connector ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divster Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Simon, how much wire is there between the connector and the battery ring terminals ?and where is the best place to locate the connector ? Personally using 175a connectors, 40mm extra flexible cableand croc clips with no problems. All sourced from VWP. Simon's kit sounds good though Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrage Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Personally using 175a connectors, 40mm extra flexible cableand croc clips with no problems. All sourced from VWP. Simon's kit sounds good thoughDave I can reccomend the 175A anderson connectors. I'm in the process of installing them on all the maitenance vehicles at the airport. Ive gone from the battery + and the chassis or battery - with 25mm cable (rated at 175A) with heavy duty ring crimps to an anderson socket mounted on the front grille of each vehicle. The jump lead is made from the same 25mm cable with an anderson socket on each end and the additional handles on the anderson sockets. This allows jumping between vehicles fitted with sockets. Ive also made up a 0.25m length set with an anderson socket on one end and the other has crock clips, you can plug this into one end of the socket to socket lead and allows you to jump vehicles without charging sockets. for the 175A models you can get dust covers which keeps the carp out, i dont think the larger and lesser ones do. The handles for the jump lead are a nice add on and make connection easy. The kit isn't cheep, but its solid. Ive got a heavy duty set of crimpers to make my connections but you can solder them on. Ive also used airfield lighting cable heatshrink over the connections to keep the moisture out. All parts sourced from VWP. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattD110td5x Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 sounds a lot like.... Did this after the first time I attempted to attach a jumper cable to a defender battery. There is a 200A slowblow fuse in series, under the seat. Most parts donated from a large-ish dead computer uninteruptable power supply. I also have this stubbie bit just in case I need normal leads, or the other battery is very close I've only ever had to jumper othe peoples cars since regards Matthew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted February 18, 2006 Author Share Posted February 18, 2006 Thats the jobbie What size plugs are they ? I was thinking about putting the connector just inside of the rear door, so it's nice and close to the front of the dead vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 I've got a set of the grey 350amp plugs to fit on my leads & 110, going to have 3 on the 110 front end, lh seatbox & at the rear, must get the cabling soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattD110td5x Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 ....What size plugs are they ? They have 175A written on the plastic. I guess they are these ones? http://www.andersonpower.com/products/pdf/114131s1.pdf also, there's a guy over here on ebay selling them; Ebay Australia ttfn Matthew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Are there any blanking caps for these connectors? just that leaving a open connector in the footwell of your vehicle, with the possibilities of sticking fingers or something onto the contacts doesn't bode well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 I think you can, but i was going to fit a battery isolator switch between the plug and battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 I think you can, but i was going to fit a battery isolator switch between the plug and battery. good plan, saves trying to spark erode your finger tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Are there any blanking caps for these connectors? just that leaving a open connector in the footwell of your vehicle, with the possibilities of sticking fingers or something onto the contacts doesn't bode well Yes all these SB type connectors have dust caps available Dust cover part numbers in lower left box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Yes all these SB type connectors have dust caps available Dust cover part numbers in lower left box Perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Marshall Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 You can buy Anderson connectors from this Ebay shop - Truck Electrics - £6.99 for 175 amp item, £11.99 for the 350 amp item. IIRC, Warn sell the same item but in red, rather than grey. Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrage Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 You can buy Anderson connectors from this Ebay shop - Truck Electrics - £6.99 for 175 amp item, £11.99 for the 350 amp item. IIRC, Warn sell the same item but in red, rather than grey.Neil Ive used a combination of RED and GREY connectors to diffrentiate between 24V vehicles and 12V vehicles, they arn't interchangable so theres no chance of jumping a 24V from a 12V or vice versa. The only problem with this idea is that you need two sets of jump leads. My 24V ones are double the length as these have to reach between our Danline Snow sweeper trailers which are towed by tractors and are a pain in the ass to manouvre to get them close to one another. VWP also sell them in RED. Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 There is a 200A slowblow fuse in series What's that, about M6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted March 10, 2006 Author Share Posted March 10, 2006 Just thought you might be interested I finally finished installing the quick realese jump leads. Installed next to the rear door with a seperate shut of switch 4.5 m reach, maybe a bit too long but never mind I also used a handle on the plug to make life easier The jumpleads can also be put back together and used on another vehicle It ended up costing about £70 but hay ho, thats Land Rovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 A neat & tidy solution, must do mine soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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