series 3 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Hi all, I drive a series as my user name suggests, But my dads company has a 2003 defender (2.5 turbo diesel shorty). We want to buy a bigger capacity hydroseeder for his business (hydroseeder is essenitaly a big water tank with a pump for landscaping work). The machine weighs about 1 and a half ton unladen, but it holds 900 gallons of water!! Do you think a defender can pull this weight off road with no modifications. Or r we punching above our wieght here. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jil6939 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Are you sure it's 900 gallons and not ltrs as my maths makes that around 4ton for the water alone! at 1kilo per ltr That cant be right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazelle Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Are you sure it's 900 gallons and not ltrs as my maths makes that around 4ton for the water alone! at 1kilo per ltr That cant be right? A quick google found this 6654kg working weight - 940 gallons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WESTENDER Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 series 3 900 gallons of water weighs 4050 kilos so i dont think a defender will pull or more importantly stop five and a half tonnes and as i drive a unbaffled vacuum slurry tanker i can tell you it takes a lot futher to stop with a live load anyway, and roundabouts approached even slightly too quickly can be very exciting in a bum clenching way i realise this is not answering your question directly but there is a thread somewere going into your question in detail, did you know how much water weighs? it surprizes a lot of people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jil6939 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 That is gallons then. I think that might be a bit on the heavy side! Or did you mean to tow it empty to site and then load it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Given that you say "off road" it depends entirely on the conditions. If its even slightly soft or slippy, forget it but if you are moving it around over good hard and reasonably level ground then a Defender would shift 6.5 tons in low range with no problem at all. Grip versus drag is what you need to consider and things like what sort of tyres are fitted to the thingy (flotation or narrow) and the vehicle (road tyres or grippy tyres) will have an effect. I would think its more likely to have been designed to be towed behind a tractor though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
series 3 Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 6.5 tons!! thats what im talking bout . The ground conditions are variable but never too rough. We actualy run on thin road tyres , but I think if we r gonna start with something this big we r gonna need something chunky!! Now we know what itll pull, Thats a weight off my mind (pardon the pun). Thanks chaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSIIA Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 If it's anything like the device Gazelle found in post #3, while 6.5 tonnes would hold back a Defender the 1600lb / 762kg hitch weight would cripple it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I'm sure the Defender would manage, if need be, but to do it on a regular basis, I'd look for something more suitable, like a tractor or Unimog. After all, a Defender is only rated for 3500 or 4000 kg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagent Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 It'll be fine moving the plant around a yard in low range, but I wouldn't even think about taking it onto anything softer than tarmac, or onto the public roads.. I towed a 38T truck with my old 300TDi defender, so it'll move the trailer OK, but I wouldn't do it regularly, you might find yourself changing a lot of clutches! Seriously, i'd look for something bigger, like a 'Mog... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51bigG Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hi all, I drive a series as my user name suggests, But my dads company has a 2003 defender (2.5 turbo diesel shorty). We want to buy a bigger capacity hydroseeder for his business (hydroseeder is essenitaly a big water tank with a pump for landscaping work). The machine weighs about 1 and a half ton unladen, but it holds 900 gallons of water!! Do you think a defender can pull this weight off road with no modifications. Or r we punching above our wieght here. Thanks I checked on the internet under Land Rover towing capacities, My Disco 3 and 110 TD5 are rated at total weight of 3 tonnes, it could be less for a 90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I checked on the internet under Land Rover towing capacities, My Disco 3 and 110 TD5 are rated at total weight of 3 tonnes, it could be less for a 90. That's strange, as far as I know both the D3 and Defender are rated for 3.5ton (4ton with coupled trailerbrakes). In Belgium, you do need to have agreement from the importer to get a 90 rated above 3ton, but that's just a formality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51bigG Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hi all, I drive a series as my user name suggests, But my dads company has a 2003 defender (2.5 turbo diesel shorty). We want to buy a bigger capacity hydroseeder for his business (hydroseeder is essenitaly a big water tank with a pump for landscaping work). The machine weighs about 1 and a half ton unladen, but it holds 900 gallons of water!! Do you think a defender can pull this weight off road with no modifications. Or r we punching above our wieght here. Thanks 3500 Kilos. I just checked again, seems to be the same weight for all Land Rovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 All 90/110/127/130/Defenders have a max tow weight of 3500kgs or 3.5 tonnes, If fitted with coupled brakes then the max towed weight can go uo to 4000kgs or 4 tonnes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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