Boothy Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 After getting frustrated at the price of a replacement end plate for my rear 8274, it was time to start overcoming the lack of good second hand parts with a bit of fabricating, made in tool steel and then zinc passivated, only because I love zinc finishes Here's a photo of the broken one which was caused by using the rear winch as a centre winch and pulling at daft angle, 90 degrees to what it should, instead of going out through the hawse I'd threaded it up to the top of the cage which resulted in the casting being broken, my fault. Hopefully the replacement IF used that way again (until centre winch fitted) it should be a lot stronger. Thoughts please lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Looks a proper job Carl. Very nice bit of work. Sure there will be requests for a few coming your way! Now I have an end plate but need the little plastic bush for it. Any ideas anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Very nice job there dude , Are you in full prodution yet ? and How much £ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl hurst Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 After getting frustrated at the price of a replacement end plate for my rear 8274, it was time to start overcoming the lack of good second hand parts with a bit of fabricating, made in tool steel and then zinc passivated, only because I love zinc finishes Here's a photo of the broken one which was caused by using the rear winch as a centre winch and pulling at daft angle, 90 degrees to what it should, instead of going out through the hawse I'd threaded it up to the top of the cage which resulted in the casting being broken, my fault. Hopefully the replacement IF used that way again (until centre winch fitted) it should be a lot stronger. Thoughts please lads. As usual you have just lashed somthing together in a rush with no thought, Nice job, should'nt have no trouble with that, Carl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobtail-Jay Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Very Nice, I like that alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl hurst Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Looks a proper job Carl. Very nice bit of work. Sure there will be requests for a few coming your way! Now I have an end plate but need the little plastic bush for it. Any ideas anyone? Not had anything to do with this one mark, Carl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yella 90 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Very nice job there dude , Are you in full prodution yet ? and How much £ i can ask my friend/one of 2 co-driver's if he fancys making another one and how much then pm you a price if you want dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 i can ask my friend/one of 2 co-driver's if he fancys making another one and how much then pm you a price if you wantdan Excellent ,Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtail84 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Not bling but brill... If you do want to make a batch I would be interested in half a dozen if the price is right. jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyzeus Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Looks a proper job Carl. Very nice bit of work. Sure there will be requests for a few coming your way! Now I have an end plate but need the little plastic bush for it. Any ideas anyone? Got one from Gigglepin just a couple of weeks ago, all the usual suspects should be able to supply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Thanks for that Holyzeus. Sorry Carl/Boothy, wasn't really thinking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan kemp Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Very nice Twiggy, you forgot the 1/2" BSP fittings though. Must try harder.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRecklessEngineer Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Bling and brill I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 When I damaged mine I tried to have a replica made out of steel but the cost was scary. I did draw (and I would) add a fin to the original design to prevent the wire rope to jump out again. Nothing new as I saw it on Barry Pluckrose's Ibex years ago (on a mag, never seen the real truck sadly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yella 90 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 anyone who is interested in prices for the endplate drop me a pm and ill give them to you dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yella 90 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 anyone who is interested in prices for the endplate drop me a pm and ill give them to you dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy511 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 An idea ive always wanted to see is an end plate made with a proper sealed bearing pressed into the end support to remove the friction you find on an 8274 whilst trying to pull the rope out on free spool. i think gigglepin do this on the gp84s. i know itll only cure half the problem but anything is better than nothing. and you can used a bearing with double lip seal to keep the carp out and im guessing a bearing will be cheaper than a warn replacement bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 This is the idea along the lines that I was going down but the cost of the bearing was approx £60 - £70 plus the drum will also need machining because a bearing is not available in that size, so now it starts becoming an expensive affair. So remove the drum turn a stubby shaft with an outside diameter of 50mm fit the stub inside the newly turned off end of the drum leaving enough sticking out to fit the bearing to, tig it up neatly, drill staight through the drum to anchor the rope, and machine end plate to take outer size of 50mm bearing. Then stand back think its hardly made any difference to the freespool because the stiffness is caused by the resistance of the gears, and then realise you've just done a s**tload off work for absolutely minimal advantage, and sit and have a miserable day realising how much trouble and expense that idea has cost you. If your modding a drum or extending it and making an endplate at the same time then all well and good but if not I cannot see the advantage against the work involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 This is the idea along the lines that I was going down but the cost of the bearing was approx £60 - £70 plus the drum will also need machining because a bearing is not available in that size, so now it starts becoming an expensive affair.So remove the drum turn a stubby shaft with an outside diameter of 50mm fit the stub inside the newly turned off end of the drum leaving enough sticking out to fit the bearing to, tig it up neatly, drill staight through the drum to anchor the rope, and machine end plate to take outer size of 50mm bearing. Then stand back think its hardly made any difference to the freespool because the stiffness is caused by the resistance of the gears, and then realise you've just done a s**tload off work for absolutely minimal advantage, and sit and have a miserable day realising how much trouble and expense that idea has cost you. If your modding a drum or extending it and making an endplate at the same time then all well and good but if not I cannot see the advantage against the work involved. Boothy, I think a lot of the resistance isn't the gears themselves it's just the fact a that they all flop about (litterally) in the case and not all are on bearings - with an 8074 freespool does actually work rather well . I had a standard endplate modded to take a bearing and I have used it on my modded 8074. The real problem with this is that you can't get a bearing that's a straight fit into the stock end plate. My solution was to have the bush face tigged up and remachined so the opening was, from memory, 4mm smaller in diameter. It would then take a standard sized bearing. As I was having a new drum made anyway modifying the end of the drum wasn't an issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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