Les Henson Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Got a letter from them this morning.:- For the attention of Mr Henson Vehicle Registration Mark: GJO 283F LAND ROVER LIGHT 4x4 UTILITY According to our records you are the keeper of the above mentioned vehicle. We are therefore wroting to let you know that someone else has applied to be recorded as keeper and be issued with a Registration Certificate (V5C). If you still have the vehicle or the vehicle has been stolen and there is no reason why someone should be applying for a V5C please telephone using the number above or write using the above address. If you do not contact us within 14 days we have to issue a V5C to the person who has applied because they have declared they now keep the vehicle. IMPORTANT - you may have already recieved an Identical letter, but you should still respond to this one. If you have sold the vehicle or there is a dispute over ownership please refer to the notes overleaf. Please do NOT telephone us in these circumstances. Vehicle Customer Services. Intersting - I have the log book here, and I personally scrapped the vehicle with the exception of the chassis, which I sold to Ridgeway 4x4. Looks like someone is trying to pull a fast one. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Looks like someone is trying to pull a fast one. Like keeping a tax exempt book for a scrapped vehicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
istruggle2gate11 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 which I sold to Ridgeway 4x4. So are they applying for it? IIRC people who own the chassis with number have all rights? That said, the motor might need more than just the chassis to retain identity - the 5 points chassis, 2 points axle, 2 points transmission etc? Could so easily be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I think it's you who's in the wrong les, In my opinion you should have sold the logbook with the chassis, Or declared it to the dvla as scrapped. What someone could have done is bought the chassis from ridgeway 4x4, and a built a car up on that chassis. in that case the logbook belongs to them! I think that if you reported it to the dvla, they could take a very dim view of you scrapping the vehicle and keeping the logbook, almost sounds like you were planning to ring another series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted June 7, 2006 Author Share Posted June 7, 2006 It doesn't really matter what they 'think' I 'Might have been' going to do does it? I just kept the log book for no particular reason other than I didn't think about it.I still have engine, transmission, bodywork, and one axle here anyway. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Doesn't alter the fact, that if they have the chassis with the number on it they should have the logbook. Looks like you havn't got a leg to stand on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted June 7, 2006 Author Share Posted June 7, 2006 Not quite sure what you mean by a 'leg to stand on' as I'm not after anything. Even if they had the chassis and log book they still wouldn't be able to legally put a vehicle with that registration on the road would they. Chassis only being 5-points means that they can't do it. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Say for example they have the original chassis that is 5 points. Then they buy new springs, shackles, ubolts, brackets and shocks, they then have a further 2 points for suspension. They then buy new steering box, relay, TRE's and steering bars, they then have another 2 points for steering. They then have a total of 9 points, and they only need 8 points to retain the original logbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgnas Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 As Les has the V5 and most of the components if he bought a NEW chassis he could rebuild the vehicle with easily enough points to retain the original documents. (IIRC that is!) Written while Dirty Diesel was replying Interesting, as both parties could amass enough points to have the "original" vehicle!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Les just tell them you scrapped it. If they question were the log book is tell them you sent it back marked scrapped. They won't question it as they know their records are cr@p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted June 7, 2006 Author Share Posted June 7, 2006 Didn't think steering came into the points system. I thought it was chassis, engine, transmission, axles, and suspension? Have to admit I don't know for sure. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 As Les has the V5 and most of the components if he bought a NEW chassis he could rebuild the vehicle with easily enough points to retain the original documents. (IIRC that is!) If les has the engine, 'box and 1 axle with a new chassis he would be up to 9 points as well. It'd be interesting to see who kept the logbook then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Hmmm.... Ridgeway4x4...... 'nuff said really Les.... My personal opinion.... I'll PM it to you! B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Les if you want the reg write back if you don't then shred the log book as the new owner of the chassis will get one from the DVLA. I had to apply for one when I once purchased a motorbike for scrap I guess they wrote to the previous owner then too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I think you are focusing too much on who has the chassis, I had the same letter for one of my Series 1's. I had given a back body to a friend which still had a number plate on it, a couple of months later I got the letter. I guess that as they had part of the body they assumed that the rest was scrapped. At the time I figured it was someone hoping to sell the number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAVED_GORILLA Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 How about this then? Can you prove that the parts you have came from that particular chassis Les? Although they did come from the vehicle they are not all individually stamped with the vin number. Unlike the chassis usually. Just food for thought not trying to upset anyone. I was of the belief that steering only made up 1 point BTW and wasnt aware that suspension had any. I stand to be corrected. SG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02GF74 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Don't worry about this Les. I'll bake you a cake with a file and saw blade inside, I would need to know the prison's address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
istruggle2gate11 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I was of the belief that steering only made up 1 point BTW and wasnt aware that suspension had any.I stand to be corrected. SG 42. The point system is weighted as follows; the original or new (direct replacement from the manufacturer) unmodified chassis/monocoque bodyshell has a value of 5, the suspension (front and back) 2, axles (both) 2, transmission 2, steering assembly 2, engine 1. Taken from DVLA Website here Keep us informed Les, wonder if they are getting better at fighting genuine (not you) crime or as of old, usual poor administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAVED_GORILLA Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Thanks Rog. I stand corrected. Like I said I wasn't sure and it is good to have it quoted. I couldn't find a link for the points breakdown. SG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
istruggle2gate11 Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I couldn't find a link for the points breakdown.SG Tell me about it! How poor is the search function within the DVLA website? As good as there automated call handling I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAVED_GORILLA Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I am sure the dvla makes things deliberately difficult so that we all just give up and drive a mondeo 100% of our time. SG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 What happened to a friend of mine Found a old camper Van dumped by Pykies had chat with land owner who told him to take it a way. it was in a hell of a state with no glass and very rotten etc. sent off request for log book got it back month later started rebuild 18 moths later it was finished and when for MOT on Route home from passed MOT get pulled over by the police arrested for driving a stolen camper van banged up for the day. Lost the camper which as sold off by the insurance company ....... Police not interested about him having the log book and he had done everything as far as he know was above board and had no idea that the camper was stolen some five years before.... Why did the DVLA not inform him the dumped camper was stolen when he applied for ownership papers..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAVED_GORILLA Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Good point Jules. The v5 only shows the registered keeper it is not proof of ownership. For this very reason I believe the V5 should be the same as the US "pink slip" Does the DVLA have a duty to aquire and pass on the details of stolen vehicles? SG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Les, whilst something dodgy may be going on it could be simple human error. I got one of these letters some years back. Phoned DVLA and someone pulled out the original paperwork. Turned out there was difficulties in reading someones handwriting. Must admit I had gone out and bought some extra security devices just in case soeone was thinking of lifting it. Regards Leeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Must admit I had gone out and bought some extra security devices just in case soeone was thinking of lifting it That's it, DVLA in league with the security system makers. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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