Mark Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 I am about to fit a heavy winch bumper (Gwyn Lewis Tubular affair) along with an 8274 onto the front of my 110. It currently has yellow/yellow front springs which are tired, and due for replacement anyway, but with the additional weight of the bumper and winch I am wondering what to replace them with. The vehicle has no suspension lift, and I do not want to have to change the rears too - I want a relatively standard ride height. So, according to the accepted standard for all things LR spring related the defender HD springs are blue/red and yellow/white, which are around 225 lb/in. The other option that has been suggested to me is Old Man Emu 751's which are around 230lb/in. They both have very similar free lengths, so I wondered if anyone had any opinions on the two - particularly on the real world amount of lift provided by the spring - or if there were another options? Cheers Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy andy. Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 OME would be best I think, BUT talk to Gywn he will give you all the advice needed. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 751's on my 110 Mark -- husky winch & heavy bumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 For that much weight I would go Green/yellow/red progressives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 Ralph - what are you running on the rear? I know your truck is reasonably heavily loaded, whilst mine is either virtually empty, or has a 90 on a trailer on the back! Planning to stick with the brown/purples on the rear (albeit new ones)... Dave - good call. They look like a good option. Will see what I can pick up - I suspect the Gen. LR ones will be cheaper than the OME, although if my experience trying to get new std rears is anything to go by, they are not that much cheaper... ta Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_J85JTY Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 I have just put the LR Red/Blue and Yellow/White spings on the front of my 110 which sports a Warn M9000i and Mantec bumber with A Bar. It raised the truch approx 1.5" and, along with HD spings on the rear, now sits level. I am hoping they will settle a little to drop .5" or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q-rover Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Anyone know the spring rates for D2 front springs? They don't seem to be listed in that table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share Posted July 14, 2011 Ben - Having fitted the different height springs to the front, has it made any difference? I know that is how they were supposed to be but I thought td5 vehicles did away with the 2 springs, and just used the same on each side? Also, which springs are you referring to by HD on the rear? Cheers Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Ralph - what are you running on the rear? I know your truck is reasonably heavily loaded, whilst mine is either virtually empty, or has a 90 on a trailer on the back! Planning to stick with the brown/purples on the rear (albeit new ones)... Dave - good call. They look like a good option. Will see what I can pick up - I suspect the Gen. LR ones will be cheaper than the OME, although if my experience trying to get new std rears is anything to go by, they are not that much cheaper... ta Mark I have 754's on the rear IIRC. my OME spring came from Surrey offroad Chris Bashall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_J85JTY Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Mark, TD5's may now have a matched pair, these were brand new 90 rears which are the older HD front. Only driven it 4 miles and it felt a lot less lurchy in the corners. The HD rears are a set of 3500kgs rated springs, cannot remember their codes but will have a look tomorrow . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat_pending Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I have an xd 9000, winch bumper and steering guard on the front of my 110, front sagged and the ride felt sloppy. I Put the LR Red/Blue and Yellow/White springs on and it transformed the handling and gave a slight lift. Best bit is they cost £15 at sodbury last year, brand new never fitted. I would think you could get Bearmach/Allmakes versions cheapish, though Genuine aren't too bad price wise. OME in my opinion are overpriced. As for the rear, HD's are going to be hard unless you run loaded all the time, I'm going to try TD5 station wagon progressives when I find some cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Bringing this back to the top, rather than start a new thread... Can anyone give me a part number for the green/yellow/red progressive springs? I'm also intrigued by the last comment about TD5 station wagon progressives... Any more information available? It seems that an awful lot of these springs aren't recorded on any of the LR spring bibles. The reference to green/yellow/red springs for example gives details that they are rear 90 HD springs... I'm also considering the pink/purple progressives as shown for the Range Rover EFI. Anyone have any experience of these? They seem to be a good spring rate but may be a little too tall even with a bit of extra weight on the front... Ta Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Here you go Adrian. All the spring info you need http://rovers.red90.ca/springinfo.html I run red/ green on the back of my Defender 110 SW with 130 helper springs. A super ride at the back.Empty or laden... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Cheers Mike. That seems a little more complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Good. You'll see I didn't comment on my front springs. I don't have a winch. I run yellow/ yellow on both sides at the front with Discovery TD5 spring isolators fitted. My dealer suggested that the heavy duty would be too heavy duty for me but would be ideal with a winch fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat_pending Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I now have the (brown/purple) TD5 station wagon rears on mine with the load leveller removed. Rear now sits up to match the raise the H/D fronts give. Handling superb, shows up my worn dampers now. These springs cost £10 at sodbury in fairly new condition, so along with the £15 the fronts cost, thats's a cheap and effective suspension upgrade. Sod spending £100 on OME to get the same result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Sounds very familiar - new take brown purple springs from Sodbury and low mileage yellow/red/greens from billing for a very sensible price. I did then put OME shocks on tho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat_pending Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I'm now trying to decide on dampers. Best budget price gas dampers anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I'm now trying to decide on dampers. Best budget price gas dampers anyone? Armstrong if you want cheap.. Koni heavy tracks if you want to do it properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defender dinky Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Armstrong if you want cheap.. Koni heavy tracks if you want to do it properly these koni heavy tracks, could i use these with blue/green & blue/yellow on the front, green/yellow/red & green/yellow/white on the rear, on my d90, that's got heavy bumper & winch, would the sockers be stanard, or are they lifted, :unsure: dd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 these koni heavy tracks, could i use these with blue/green & blue/yellow on the front, green/yellow/red & green/yellow/white on the rear, on my d90, that's got heavy bumper & winch, would the sockers be stanard, or are they lifted, :unsure: dd konis are available in standard and +2 lengths, they'd work with any springs and are ajustable, worth every penny in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I've gone for the Terrafirma All Terrain shocks in standard length. They seem to offer the best balance between performance and value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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