mikec Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Hi might sound an odd question but what does this bearing look like to you? New or worn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 is it from your gearbox... i would be replacing that, but even if you wouldnt normally, i would replace it anyway if its in the gearbox, because then you know its new and it aint gona be a problem at any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 It may just be the photo but that race looks damaged on the edge on the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 It's the cam bearings on my land rover recon v8. I'd of expected them to be new, especially with the cost of the engines originally! To me it doesn't look good but I'm a pessimist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 It may just be the photo but that race looks damaged on the edge on the right. Do you mean at about three o clock? If so then theres some groove machined out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Can't see a bearing but the race is not in great shape and will cause damage to the bearing later, I take it someone has sold you a unit as recon with new bearings? They could be new but look like they have been put in with a hammer!! Jason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 Can't see a bearing but the race is not in great shape and will cause damage to the bearing later, I take it someone has sold you a unit as recon with new bearings? They could be new but look like they have been put in with a hammer!! Jason. Are you looking at the marks on the bottom? That's where I'm worried about, the front and rear bearings look worse than the middle ones. Thing is how big of a job is it to change. Looks a right pain! Worried now about the rest of the bearings on it. So much for lr recon stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discomikey Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 they will be bush bearings rather than roller bearings then as a guess. replace if its on the engine regardless. everything ought to be perfect as the tiniest mark on that will wreck the cam too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Are you looking at the marks on the bottom? That's where I'm worried about, the front and rear bearings look worse than the middle ones. Thing is how big of a job is it to change. Looks a right pain! Worried now about the rest of the bearings on it. So much for lr recon stuff! That lookes well mullered to me!!! Cam bearings are easy to swap... Line boring them on a horizontal borer after changing them isnt widely regarded as a job you can do at home. Fitting and boring a TDi block (i'm rebuilding my 200TDI at the minute) was quoted as £135 + vat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Well warn to me too John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Worn & marked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Acr have quoted 80 quid plus vat for a new set, not too bad. Unfortunately though I'll have to strip it all down now to take it, not happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Acr have quoted 80 quid plus vat for a new set, not too bad. Unfortunately though I'll have to strip it all down now to take it, not happy! Bored or just fitted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I was under the impression V8 white metal camshaft bearings were pressed in then line honed. Those in your pictures are either worn, or have been fitted very badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 As above, pretty sure you need a machine shop to fit them.... not a DIY job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Bored or just fitted? Don't know to be honest, I know you can buy ready sized ones for 40 quid so the same again for fitting I don't find to bad. Does it need to be bored? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Don't know to be honest, I know you can buy ready sized ones for 40 quid so the same again for fitting I don't find to bad. Does it need to be bored? If you want the bearings in line and the cam to run true and free, Yes. Will the engine run fine without them bored, Yes. But why go to that effort and do half a job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 If you want the bearings in line and the cam to run true and free, Yes. Will the engine run fine without them bored, Yes. But why go to that effort and do half a job? Suppose so but I'm not sure anywhere local that would do it, if anyone knows anyone in the north west area could you let me know. I had another look today and had a feel of it and the first one has a noticeable ridge on it, to say I'm disappointed is an understatement, if this is how lr recon'd their engines no wonder so many v8's had problems. Will have a look at the mains etc when I strip it, hopefully they'll be new! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Not in your neck of the wood, but I had a set fitted to my old 3.5 by Turner Engineering. A relatively small company but quality is second to none. I have no connection, just a happy customer. They ship worldwide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 I rang turners today, the lady I spoke to was very nice but basically said they hadn't really been asked to fit them before and the price for the same on a 4cyl would be 130, she said they weren't that hard to fit. Acr are looking favourite at the minute tho I don't think they do the line boring. I've one more company to try, eda in Leeds I'll repost when I get sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott R Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I'm 95% sure they come as finished size, just pressed fit then maybe a light scrapping if the cam is too tight in there. That's how the 200/300tdi ones are, I had some done a few months back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I rang turners today, the lady I spoke to was very nice but basically said they hadn't really been asked to fit them before and the price for the same on a 4cyl would be 130, she said they weren't that hard to fit. Acr are looking favourite at the minute tho I don't think they do the line boring. I've one more company to try, eda in Leeds I'll repost when I get sorted Ah yes, Frida is very knowledgable and helpful. She obviously doesn't remember them doing mine, it was only 15-ish years ago They weren't even doing much with V8s back then. It was all 4-cyl engines (2.25 & 2.5 Ps, Ds and Tdi) at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Well stripped the engine down to take to acr, the crank bearings aren't new and this is what the valve stem seals look like on one head To say I'm peed of is an understatement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'm sorry, but where was that from? Take it back and demand a refund! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Well it was from eBay, I bought it when there was a load on there or lr "recons" about two years ago. I'm currently looking for the receipt though not sure where I stand with regards to it being so long ago. I sort of wasn't bothered about the cam bearings and put it down to a mistake but stuff like that is beyond, the thing is, say I'd been fitting it to a p38, I'd of shoved it in without looking! It had rocker covers on it when I bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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