Sirocco Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I will be replacing my shocks soon and I was just going to plump for N115 fronts to compliment my N44 rears. These are original OME HD shocks but... I have seen in the last 12 months or so the newer Nitrocharger 'Sport' which is said to be better. Has anybody bought these and tried them? I cant find much real world use on the web. I will be going for the HDs as my 90 is running near enough GVW for an overland trip next year. http://www.arb.com.au/products/old-man-emu-4x4-suspension/nitrocharger-sport-shocks/ Thoughts please G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I understand they are more firm than the ordinary OMEs, so would suit better to HD spring. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Always overlooked imho is the Koni heavy trak shocks, i run them on my 110 and there just fantastic. Well worth the money and 1 less thing to worry about. There adjustable as well so you can soffen the ride when unladen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy andy. Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Got them on mine G. Very very very very happy with them, nice quality bits of kit. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirocco Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 Always overlooked imho is the Koni heavy trak shocks, i run them on my 110 and there just fantastic. Well worth the money and 1 less thing to worry about. There adjustable as well so you can soffen the ride when unladen. I read a few mixed reports on the Koni's along with them being out of my budget so I have discounted them. Its taken me a long long time to narrow the choice of reasonably priced dampers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirocco Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 Got them on mine G. Very very very very happy with them, nice quality bits of kit. Andy That is good news Andy. Do you know if there are different 'rates' of them? D44 only show a front and rear with no other options, if this is the case, all the better as I have no choice! Out of interest, have you had your 90 weighed? I know its got a fair bit of kit on it. Just curious G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I read a few mixed reports on the Koni's along with some snapping so discounted them. Its taken me a long long time to narrow the choice of reasonably priced dampers I've heard nor read anything like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirocco Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 I've heard nor read anything like that! Sorry, my mind wondered, it was another brand that snapped on the rear near the eyelet. I knocked the Koni's on the head mostly due to price. G Edit: Looks like the 'raids' are the expensive ones, the 'heavy tracks' are actually reasonable. Are they a twin tube design? as some pics seem to show them without the protective 'tube'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) When I did my trans-Africa, I had Koni heavy trak fitted to the rear (where most of the weight was), and they outlasted two sets of new front shocks (first was deCarbon, second was terrafirma adventure) and are still going strong now. if they could be snapped, I probably would have snapped them. In fact on one very long road that had the most vicious, eye watering and soul destroying corrugations I have ever had the displeasure of having to perambulate, one of the Konis punched a neat hole through the lower shock mount rather than break. It then, being loose to swing about, swung pointing forward and was jabbed into every corrugation for ten miles before I noticed. All of which had no effect. overlapped your reply - they are expensiveshort term but very good VFM in the long run I'd say. Edited October 8, 2012 by Eightpot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 G, I have OME N60070L shocks all round on my 90, and they are superb . Over the old pro-comps I took off they transmit more vibrations as they are stiffer but the car drives so much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Just for the record, you can snap any shock. The reason they snap (contrary to popular belief) is when they bottom out on compression so the shock is acting as a bump stop. Most people figure it's down to them being over extended or just poor build quality. Good build quality will make them last longer in this situation - but it's still not good for the shock! As a rule of thumb, with the vehicle at rest, measure the length of the rod (silver bit) sticking out of the body of the shock and subtract the distance from the top of the axle to the under side of the bump stop. If the result is less than 50mm, the shock will be acting as a bump stop. The solution is either thicker bump stops or moving the top shock mounting up. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy andy. Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 That is good news Andy. Do you know if there are different 'rates' of them? D44 only show a front and rear with no other options, if this is the case, all the better as I have no choice! Out of interest, have you had your 90 weighed? I know its got a fair bit of kit on it. Just curious G I just run the same damper on all four corners, which is nice for carting spares about. I ran Koni's before and was very impressed by these and they took massive amounts of abuse. But I now run the Gwyn Lewis setup so need the longer shocks and pin pin design. What setup you running? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirocco Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 I just run the same damper on all four corners, which is nice for carting spares about. I ran Koni's before and was very impressed by these and they took massive amounts of abuse. But I now run the Gwyn Lewis setup so need the longer shocks and pin pin design. What setup you running? Andy Currently Terrafirma Medium springs with OME N44 rears and TF fronts. The TF shocks are too soft that is why I got the N44s but these seem harsh even with a fully loaded vehicle. I was just going to get the N115 fronts but then saw the newer 'sport' versions. Now Vulcan has put me in tune with the Koni Heavy Tracks which actually have some great reviews across the board (apologies to Vulcan it was Bilstein I got confused with when I looked at upgrading suspension years ago!). anyhow, the Koni's seem like a winner and are a little cheaper than OME. So... I'm about to order 4 new Koni shocks and 4 new TF springs I think... I just can hit the 'buy' button as its big £££! G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy andy. Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Koni's are great and will work well for you. I would recommend that you get some superpro bushes for the bottom mounts, as I went through a few standard sets before changing. Not sure about terrafirma springs tho, would prefer to see you on OME's Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Currently Terrafirma Medium springs with OME N44 rears and TF fronts. The TF shocks are too soft that is why I got the N44s but these seem harsh even with a fully loaded vehicle. I was just going to get the N115 fronts but then saw the newer 'sport' versions. Now Vulcan has put me in tune with the Koni Heavy Tracks which actually have some great reviews across the board (apologies to Vulcan it was Bilstein I got confused with when I looked at upgrading suspension years ago!). anyhow, the Koni's seem like a winner and are a little cheaper than OME. So... I'm about to order 4 new Koni shocks and 4 new TF springs I think... I just can hit the 'buy' button as its big £££! G No worries, I dont reccommend stuff I dont believe in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirocco Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 Not sure about terrafirma springs tho, would prefer to see you on OME's Andy Been running around on the medium duty (220lb/in Front & 300-340lb/in Rear) springs for over 4 years now with the 90 at near enough GVW. There is zero sag and I am very pleased with them The spring rates also match OME so it was fairly easy to decide on what I needed (at the time). I will however get the HD ones next (360lb/in Rear) as towing the Sankey also now. No worries, I dont reccommend stuff I dont believe in! G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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